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Why not just normalize the two groups together after the last round.
It would be like each round would have 2 with 1000's just like they
tied and crunch it all together and see. You can't use raw scores as
that would defeat the normalizaion process and favor the line with the
possibly "easier" judges. In the end you have a complete Masters
result as one class. Perfectly fair, no but seems like a workable
solution without the need for 2 sets of awards that you may or may not
need depending on the turnout that day.<br>
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Chris<br>
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<pre wrap=""> Yes Brian we will mix it up as the contest needs warrant. Like the beer deal. Ask Bobby I'd win that one. Mike
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<pre wrap="">From: brian young <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:brian_w_young@yahoo.com"><brian_w_young@yahoo.com></a>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Northern D5's answer to the glut in Masters
To: "General pattern discussion" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a>
Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 9:58 AM
I
think this would be fine.
Instead of flipping a coin whoever can shotgun a beer
the fastest gets the "trophy."
One thing that happens when masters judge masters is
you lose the judge training, do you go ahead and mix in some
other classes as judges as well?
Brian
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From: mike mueller <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com"><mups1953@yahoo.com></a>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Northern D5's answer to the
glut in Masters
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>
Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 8:55 AM
After a discussion at our Pattern seminar here on Saturday
we have come up with what we think is a workable solution to
this problem.
First we will wait to see how the classes form on the
morning of our contests. If we have bad numbers in that the
Masters class dominates the ranks we will then split the
class into 2 groups by picking the names out of a hat. Group
A will judge Group B. This remains the situation throughout
the contest. Since this doesn't give the contests
organizers a chance to have 2 sets of awards the trophys
will be awarded by a flip of a coin. So say they announce
the winners of 3rd place both guys come up and flip the
coin. Ideally the awards are not trophy's but paper in
which case the award problem is solved.
As far as District points we just add up the numbers for
each group seperatly.
Does anyone see a problem with this? Thanks, Mike Mueller
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