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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you. I was on the 402 sequence committee.
When we created the current sequence we worked with the guys who were creating
the other sequences as well. We had a list of skills that we wanted our sequence
to encompass (so did the people working on the other sequences). We knew there
would be a larger gap between Advanced and Masters compared to the gap between
Intermediate and Advanced. The reason being that there are only 4 AMA sequences
and as you move up the ladder, you should be more capable of learning new
skills. Like I said you can PRACTICE any maneuvers that you want to. The
schedules only determine what you're judged on. If you just go to the field and
practice ONLY your schedule or the maneuvers in your schedule then you're doing
yourself a great disservice. I always try to work on maneuvers from the next
higher schedule to help me fly the current schedule. The fact that the
current 403 schedule has very little inverted sections and no inverted entries /
exits is not really bad as far as I'm concerned. There are enough other
challenges there. I have a pretty good idea what it takes to be competitive in
Masters and while I'm not going to learn all of it from simply flying the
Advanced sequence, I will be prepared when I get there. This is where I
think doing away with the current Advancement rules is a good thing. I want to
go to Masters when I'm ready. Not when I've simply flown in enough contests to
accumulate "points". The level of difficulty in the lower sequences has to be
considered carefully if you want to keep "new" Pattern pilots interested. By the
same token, the top 2 classes need to be interesting for people who have been
doing this for longer than I've been alive it seems. :) It's not as easy as some
people make it out to be. If you look at all of this with "tunnel vision" as
either a seasoned Masters or FAI pilot OR as a newbie in Sportsman I don't think
you can make a good decision about it. You have to consider a lot of little
things and look at the big picture. Remember, this whole discussion started with
"Is the current Masters sequence too long?" VBG </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com/">http://www.idseng.com</A></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jnhiller@earthlink.net href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net">J N
Hiller</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:25 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Advancement System</DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">The
sequence committee got it right with two rolls, here's
why.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">1- Not
everyone flies or should be expected to fly a two meter airplane 150 M out and
if we wish to encourage sport flier participation the sequence needs to be
compatible with flying as close as 100 M. We get accustomed to flying near the
limit of our visibility but we shouldn't mandate it in when developing
entry-level sequences.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">2-
Intermediate pilots are still learning wind correction and centering and
without extra room / line length a long center maneuver flown off center will
push the turnaround out of the box resulting in two downgrades for a single
error which can be unnecessarily discouraging. In advanced we can expect the
competitor to deal with this but most intermediate pilots are still learning
the basics.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Jim
Hiller <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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