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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Let’ just remove all the wording about advancement and
points from the rule book and let anyone fly any class they want for any reason
they feel is appropriate. I’ve been advocating this for years and have
written rules proposals in the past that got shot down by NSRCA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’ll volunteer to write the proposal and submit it to AMA
if NSRCA will support it. Without the support of NSRCA it would be pretty futile
effort.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dave Burton<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Atwood,
Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 08, 2009 10:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement System - follow up<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I really do think this is easy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Change the advancement rule to be a guideline, not a rule.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>People should be able to change what class they fly when they
want to. Yes, there could be the occasional A$$ that changes for the
wrong reason, but let’s not make rules just to capture idiots, and make
more work for everyone else in the process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>People move between FAI and Masters ALL THE TIME based on
who’s at a contest, or the overall contest make up and no one
cares. There’s no reason that the same can’t happen in the
lower classes. Let’s just try it for a bit. Please??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>All we need is a proposal to change the wording on advancement
to be a guideline, a recommendation. And remove any language that refers
to mandatory advancement or prevents people from moving back down a level.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Let’s see what problems it causes. I’m betting
NONE, and it will eliminate numerous problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-M<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Earl
Haury<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 08, 2009 9:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion List, NSRCA<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement System - follow up<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Lots of good
observations and comments that are on topic. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Also, adjusting
the sequences / classes may be a fix to the root cause of poor skill fits in a
given class that would dictate moving up or down.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>IMHO, I
believe the immediate focus should be on changing the advancement system so
that folks who find themselves in a class way beyond their skill level have a
mechanism to move to a class better fitting their skills. I'm not proposing
that the focused competitor who moves up and then finds themselves not
competitive for a few years should move back. I do believe that the casual
competitor who finds that age / career / family / increased sequence difficulty
should be able to easily move to a class where they're comfortable. As the
discussions regarding sequence content indicate, the consummate competitor
wants (needs) an increasing level of difficulty to maintain challenge &
interest. This increase in difficulty can (and apparently does) overwhelm some
casual competitors who then leave pattern. Possibly they can be retained
if it were easy for them to drop back a class.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I don't
perceive that this discussion has reached a consensus on how best to handle the
current advancement system, previous discussions have ended similarly and
nothing much has changed. The options seem to be:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1. Leave the
current system alone & adjust sequences / classes. (Appears to concede to
the lowest skill pilots per class.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>2. No
official advancement system, peer pressure is adequate. (Might actually work,
most pattern folks are honorable.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>3. Variant of
current system with provisions for casual competitors to move back basis their
comfort / performance. (Probably OK and would seem to have a good chance with
the CB.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>4.
Performance based system where folks float between classes basis performance.
(Actually my favorite as it would both satisfy providing comfort to the casual
and prestige to the consummate. Unfortunately logistically most difficult,
someone would need to manage the data and assign classes.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>So - the
trick is to reach some sort of consensus and move it to a rules proposal.
Discussion alone won't get the job done.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Earl</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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