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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Joe:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> Advanced last weekend in Winston = 0
contestants. A couple of weeks ago in Green Sea: Advanced = 1
contestant. I don't believe that we've had more than 4 contestants in
Advanced in a single contest for 2 years--maybe more. I haven't thought
much about just why that might be, but right now, it's a very unpopular
class. I concur that most of the dropouts seem to be either from the
Advanced class, or, from those who are forced into the Advanced class. No
matter how/why they're forced to move up, it's just </FONT><FONT
face=Arial>the way it is right now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bill Glaze</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=jlachow@hotmail.com href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com">Joe
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:32
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Advancement System</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I'm for getting rid of advancement in the Advanced class for
one. This is the class a number flyers who stick around seem to
hit their skill level wall and disappear. It also appears to be the
smallest class attended at local contests these days. At least in D1 it
is.<BR> <BR>I'd also like to see the option of being able to move back
after one year in the next higher class. This would be a allowed one time
only.<BR> <BR> To make frequent sequence change doable, instead of
having to come up with new ones every 4 years or so, maybe we should just
come up with a good set of say 4 for each class. You can rotate
through them every 2 years and start from the first one all over again
after they've cycled through. This could easily be done for Intermediate
and Advanced. Probably even Masters. After about 8 years the pool of flyers
for the most part will have changed in each class anyway. Establishing
these sequences will probably take a well thought process of about two years
by some dedicated people willing to take it on. You could also just change a
handful of maneuvers in these sequences after the 8 year cycle to keep things
a little fresh for those that are still flying a
particular class after the 8 year cycle. This is a lot of work up front
but in teh long run it is easier. <BR> <BR> As far as Sportsman
goes, you just need one good sequence that teaches the basic skills to
get you to Intermediate. The one we have now is pretty close if not good
enough.<BR> <BR>Just some ideas.<BR> <BR>
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From: anthonyr105@hotmail.com<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date:
Thu, 7 May 2009 10:48:08 -0400<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement
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Good idea Earl. I think peer pressure alone will suffice but if
we want an organize system this has merit. <BR> Do we realize if we
allow the other classes to become destinations then the sequences should
change more frequently. <BR> <BR>Anthony<BR> <BR>
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From: ejhaury@comcast.net<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date:
Thu, 7 May 2009 09:24:18 -0500<BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>In the discussion regarding the Masters sequence /
length a few competitors mentioned that increasing the difficulty would cause
them to stop competing. Folks, this needs to be addressed! We can't tolerate a
system where folks are forced to a level where they can't enjoy pattern and/or
chose to quit. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>There are generally two views of the current system. One
is that it is cast in stone and needed to force the "trophy hound" to
move to the proper class. The other is that peer pressure alone will result in
proper classification. I think that there's a third possibility, some folks
prematurely move to a higher class for the "prestige" of that
class. There's likely reality / unreality to each view which
supports that some process is needed. While there have been some changes to
smooth the advancement process, nothing has changed for a person who
finds themselves in a class that exceeds their skills. I know - there's a
process to petition for dropping to a lower class, but it's intended for
hardship cases rather than being uncompetitive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>OK - going back to the first paragraph - how might we
fix this? My suggestion is to change the rules so that folks who gather points
in the lower percentile of a class for X number of events (or rounds, or time
span?) have the option to stay where they are, or move back a class. The
current advancement rules would be applied to folks in the upper percentile.
It seems that this would provide an option for the casual competitor to seek a
comfort level and retain a reasonable advancement process for the serious
competitor. Of course there are administrative issues, probably best to simply
use data within each district, as most already track points for district
championships. A district based data set would also best weight performance
within one's local peer group.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Just my thoughts - how about the group discussing this
some.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Earl</FONT></DIV><BR>
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