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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Part of me likes the rotating sequence idea, but it falls pray
to the ever changing &#8220;style&#8221; of our patterns.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>How about instead of changing an entire sequence, we look to
change a segment of the sequence every 2 years?&nbsp; Throw 6 manuevers out,
and add 6 different ones.&nbsp; It would allow for some change, some tweaking
of the difficulty, would allow new style maneuvers to be put in, without
completely redesigning and testing&nbsp; new sequences all the time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It would also reduce the sudden learning curve.&nbsp; You would have
some of it memorized and &#8220;learned&#8221; going in.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And it could be done for every class, though I think Masters
probably would like a complete new sequence more often.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As for advancement, I really think that EVERY class should be
voluntary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I&#8217;d like to hear someone name a trophy hound.&nbsp; I&#8217;m
pretty sure once they did&#8230;it would end right there.&nbsp; Peer pressure
and good natured ribbing is part of the game.&nbsp; I hammer on Archie to move
up to FAI at almost every contest!&nbsp; He has goals he wants to achieve and
that&#8217;s great.&nbsp; When someone is REALLY tired of him taking home 1<sup>st</sup>
place in a local contest&#8230;all they have to do is&#8230;.beat him.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe
Lachowski<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> NSRCA Discussion List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement System<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I'm
for getting rid of advancement in the Advanced class for one. This is the
class&nbsp;a&nbsp;number&nbsp;flyers who stick around seem to hit their skill
level wall and disappear.&nbsp; It also appears to be the smallest class
attended at local contests these days.&nbsp; At least in D1 it is.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I'd also like to see the option of being able to move back after one year in
the next higher class. This would be a allowed one time only.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;To make frequent sequence change doable, instead of having to come up
with new ones every&nbsp;4 years or so, maybe we should just come up with
a&nbsp;good set of&nbsp;say 4 for each class. You can&nbsp;rotate
through&nbsp;them every 2 years and start from the first one all over again after&nbsp;they've
cycled through. This could easily be done for Intermediate and Advanced.
Probably even Masters. After about 8 years the pool of flyers for the most part
will have changed in each class anyway.&nbsp;Establishing these sequences will
probably take a well thought process of about two years by some dedicated
people willing to take it on. You could also just change a handful of maneuvers
in these sequences after the 8 year cycle to keep things a little fresh for
those that are still&nbsp;flying&nbsp;a particular&nbsp;class after the 8 year
cycle. This is a lot of work up front but in teh long run it is easier. <br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;As far as Sportsman goes, you just need one good&nbsp;sequence that
teaches the basic skills to get you to Intermediate. The one we have now is
pretty close if not good enough.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Just some ideas.<br>
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>From:
anthonyr105@hotmail.com<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:48:08 -0400<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement System<br>
<br>
Good&nbsp;idea&nbsp;Earl.&nbsp;I think peer pressure alone will suffice but if
we want an organize system this has merit.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;Do we realize if we allow the other classes to become destinations then
the sequences should change more frequently.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Anthony<br>
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>From: ejhaury@comcast.net<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:24:18 -0500<br>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement System<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In
the discussion regarding the Masters sequence / length a few competitors
mentioned that increasing the difficulty would cause them to stop competing.
Folks, this needs to be addressed! We can't tolerate a system where folks are
forced to a level where they can't enjoy pattern and/or chose to quit.&nbsp;</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>There
are generally two views of the current system. One is that it is cast in stone
and needed to&nbsp;force the &quot;trophy hound&quot; to move to the proper
class. The other is that peer pressure alone will result in proper
classification. I think that there's a third possibility, some folks
prematurely move to a higher class for the &quot;prestige&quot; of that
class.&nbsp;There's likely reality / unreality to each view&nbsp;which supports
that some process is needed. While there have been some changes to smooth the
advancement process,&nbsp;nothing has changed for a person who finds themselves
in a class that exceeds their skills. I know - there's a process to petition
for dropping to a lower class, but it's intended for hardship cases rather than
being uncompetitive.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>OK
- going back to the first paragraph - how might we fix this? My suggestion is
to change the rules so that folks who gather points in the lower percentile of
a class for X number of events (or rounds, or time span?) have the option to
stay where they are, or move back a class. The current advancement rules would
be applied to folks in the upper percentile. It seems that this would provide
an option for the casual competitor to seek a comfort level and retain a
reasonable advancement process for the serious competitor. Of course there are
administrative issues, probably best to simply use data within each district,
as most already track points for district championships. A district based data
set would also best weight performance within one's local peer group.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Just
my thoughts - how about the group discussing this some.</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Earl</span><span
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