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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Was Eddie "Madman" Morgan there? We
(Hawthorne Hoodlums/Larks) were invited up for a contest there about 1962 and
flew up to the El Dorado dry lake in lightplanes. We got out only to have
Eddie and others of the Vegas crowd announce "we don't know anything about
running a contest. It's gonna be up to you guys." We looked around,
and I noticed the guys looking at me; I turned to my wife, and she says "Why
Not?" So, I asked if they had a card table, a couple of chairs, and some
clipboards. They said "Sure thing" and the contest was on. Fun
times.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill Glaze</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=joddino@socal.rr.com href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com">James
Oddino</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:46 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Length of
2011 Masters Sequence</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>When I started contest flying, You put your plane in line and
flew when you got to the head of the line. There was no such thing as
rounds. If you got there early you could keep flying and get more
flights than the other guys. I remember flying on the dry lake in Las
Vegas with the wind howling and Larry Leonard and I were the only guys getting
in line so I had so many flights the sand wore out the plastic gimbals in my
Bonner transmitter. Those were the days.
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<DIV>Jim</DIV>
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<DIV>On May 5, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Matthew Frederick wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think y'all are starting to get somewhere
with this discussion. I remember the days of pattern contests in the south
being 40+ pilots on a regular basis. I also remember how strict the rules
were in regards to getting up in the air quickly. There were 3
ready boxes leading up to your time to fly, and you better be in them when
you needed to be or you lost your turn. I was at the Space City contest this
weekend in Katy, TX and I must say I haven't seen a contest that well
executed since I started flying again 3 years ago. The CD wasn't even a
pattern pilot! He just wanted to run an efficient contest. There were
30 pilots evenly spread among all the classes (although Advanced was
definitely the largest at 8), and we had no problem getting in 6 rounds
and we were finished with the awards by 2:30 on Sunday. I think we
should focus on running efficient contests before we start worrying about
how long it takes to fly a sequence. I've also seen a couple comments about
the electrics being at a disadvantage due to the length. For what it's worth
I think the sequences should drive the technology used, not the other way
around. Oh, by the way, I judged a round of Masters and the only thing that
bothered me about it was that my legs were already sunburnt from sitting
through 2 rounds of Sportsman and 2 rounds of Intermediate the day
before.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Matt</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
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discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 05, 2009 1:46
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Length of 2011 Masters Sequence</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>John Ferrell wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Based on experience as site director
at the Nats and CD at local contests I don't think the extra minute on
the sequence is the problem. The FAI guys are being as professional as
possible and seldom take their allotted time to take off. There a lot of
guys flying Masters that you have to run down and wake up before they
even start to get ready to fly. </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>I've run a few
larger aerobatic contests (40 to 60 pilots) and I found it is precisely
those minutes that can kill you. Think about it. 35 pilots each taking 1
minute extra. 35 minutes per round times 4 or 5 rounds, and WOW you are
talking about an extra 2 hours 20 minutes to maybe 3 hours!! SO regardless
of if it is in the sequence or on teh ground, those pesky little minutes
add up like mad!!<BR>
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