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<P>VB<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "mike mueller" &lt;mups1953@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>To: "General pattern discussion" &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<BR>Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 10:55:25 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Length of 2011 Masters Sequence<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;Chris it's way too early in the morning for Bobby to say "Have a nice day" That comes later in the day. Man don't you know anything about Bobby yet??? Mike<BR><BR><BR>--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Chris Moon &lt;cjm767driver@hotmail.com&gt; wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; From: Chris Moon &lt;cjm767driver@hotmail.com&gt;<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Length of 2011 Masters Sequence<BR>&gt; To: "General pattern discussion" &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<BR>&gt; Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:19 AM<BR>&gt; &lt;div id=yiv1991765604&gt;&lt;!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC<BR>&gt; "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"&gt;<BR>&gt; &lt;html&gt;<BR>&gt; &lt;head&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; <BR>&gt; &lt;/head&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp;<BR>&gt; Bobby you left out "Have a nice day"&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; Chris&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; Robert G. Satalino wrote:<BR>&gt; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; &nbsp;type="cite"&gt;No FAI hand me downs. Just take<BR>&gt; out three maneuvers,<BR>&gt; that's more time for other things.<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;div&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;div&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0,<BR>&gt; 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:20px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;div style=""&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;div&gt;Robert Satalino&lt;/div&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;div&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:rcairbob1@comcast.net"&gt;rcairbob1@comcast.net&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br<BR>&gt; class="Apple-interchange-newline"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;div&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;div&gt;On May 5, 2009, at 11:23 AM, mike mueller<BR>&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;br class="Apple-interchange-newline"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; Mark we have plans for splitting Masters into 2 groups<BR>&gt; around here.<BR>&gt; Anything else is a disaster. Mike&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Atwood, Mark &lt;&lt;a<BR>&gt; rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com"&gt;atwoodm@paragon-inc.com&lt;/a&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;From: Atwood,<BR>&gt; Mark &lt;&lt;a rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com"&gt;atwoodm@paragon-inc.com&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Subject: RE:<BR>&gt; [NSRCA-discussion] Length of<BR>&gt; 2011 Masters Sequence&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;To:<BR>&gt; "General pattern discussion" &lt;&lt;a<BR>&gt; rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"&gt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&lt;/a&gt;&gt;,<BR>&gt; "&lt;a rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com"&gt;mups1953@yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;"<BR>&gt; &lt;&lt;a rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com"&gt;mups1953@yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Date: Tuesday,<BR>&gt; May 5, 2009, 10:57 AM&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Hear<BR>&gt; Hear!!&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;I love flying<BR>&gt; long sequences...hate judging<BR>&gt; them. &nbsp;There&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;needs to be a<BR>&gt; balance. &nbsp;Not just for the<BR>&gt; sake of the judges,&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;but also to<BR>&gt; accommodate the length of the<BR>&gt; contest. &nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;At a big D4/D5<BR>&gt; contest we'll usually have<BR>&gt; 5-6 FAI&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;pilots and 15<BR>&gt; or 16 masters pilots.<BR>&gt; &nbsp;Currently the masters&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;pattern is a<BR>&gt; MINIMUM of 10 minutes per<BR>&gt; pilot (maybe not in&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;the air, but<BR>&gt; you have to really have people<BR>&gt; on their toes to&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;even get 6<BR>&gt; flights in an hour). &nbsp;With 16<BR>&gt; masters pilots,&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;that's 2<BR>&gt; hours and 40 minutes of flying per<BR>&gt; round if&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;you're<BR>&gt; humpin'. &nbsp;&nbsp;Six rounds means 16 hours<BR>&gt; of&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;flying for JUST<BR>&gt; masters guys. &nbsp;Assuming you<BR>&gt; have 2 lines,&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;that means one<BR>&gt; of those lines is dedicated<BR>&gt; to Masters for&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;the entire<BR>&gt; contest AND assume you have 16<BR>&gt; hours to fly.&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;We never have<BR>&gt; 16 hours to fly. &nbsp;Rarely can<BR>&gt; we get people to&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;stay until 6pm<BR>&gt; on Sunday (9am - 6pm with a<BR>&gt; lunch break both&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;days) and most<BR>&gt; fields have the sun in the<BR>&gt; box either in the&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;morning or<BR>&gt; afternoon which shortens the<BR>&gt; flying day even&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;more.&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Now add to<BR>&gt; those woes that you only have<BR>&gt; 5-6 FAI guys&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;judging.<BR>&gt; &nbsp;You need 32 man hours of judging,<BR>&gt; so even if you&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;mix in a group<BR>&gt; of Advanced flyers it's a<BR>&gt; loooong time in&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;the<BR>&gt; chair.&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Bottom line,<BR>&gt; regardless of whether it's<BR>&gt; P-09 (probably&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;not a good<BR>&gt; choice at this point) or a home<BR>&gt; brewed&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;pattern...it<BR>&gt; needs to follow the FAI trend<BR>&gt; of getting a&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;little shorter.<BR>&gt; &nbsp;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;My<BR>&gt; .02&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;-----Original<BR>&gt; Message-----&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;From: &lt;a<BR>&gt; rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"&gt;nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;[&lt;a<BR>&gt; rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"&gt;mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org&lt;/a&gt;]<BR>&gt; On Behalf&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Of Archie<BR>&gt; Stafford&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Sent: Tuesday,<BR>&gt; May 05, 2009 11:38 AM&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;To: &lt;a<BR>&gt; rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com"&gt;mups1953@yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;;<BR>&gt; 'General<BR>&gt; pattern&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; type="cite"&gt;discussion'&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Subject: Re:<BR>&gt; [NSRCA-discussion] Length of<BR>&gt; 2011 Masters&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; type="cite"&gt;Sequence&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; type="cite"&gt;Verne,&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;This started<BR>&gt; when I suggested to the<BR>&gt; sequence committee&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;that we need<BR>&gt; to&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;shorten the<BR>&gt; masters pattern. &nbsp;Flying it is<BR>&gt; fine, but I&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;think we need<BR>&gt; to take&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;into account<BR>&gt; the guys who have to sit and<BR>&gt; judge it. &nbsp;I&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;heard several<BR>&gt; guys in&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;FAI judging<BR>&gt; this weekend about how long a<BR>&gt; sequence it is. &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Which<BR>&gt; wouldn't be&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;near as bad<BR>&gt; except for the fact Masters is<BR>&gt; usually the&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;largest class<BR>&gt; at most&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;contests.<BR>&gt; &nbsp;I think we need to consider the<BR>&gt; length of time&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;in the<BR>&gt; judges&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;chair for those<BR>&gt; that have to judge it as<BR>&gt; well.&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Arch&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;-----Original<BR>&gt; Message-----&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;From: &lt;a<BR>&gt; rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"&gt;nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;[&lt;a<BR>&gt; rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"&gt;mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org&lt;/a&gt;]<BR>&gt; On Behalf&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Of mike<BR>&gt; mueller&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Sent: Tuesday,<BR>&gt; May 05, 2009 10:31 AM&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;To: General<BR>&gt; pattern discussion&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Subject: Re:<BR>&gt; [NSRCA-discussion] Length of<BR>&gt; 2011 Masters&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; type="cite"&gt;Sequence&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt; The current<BR>&gt; pattern puts E. guys at a bit<BR>&gt; of a&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;disadvantage.<BR>&gt; It pushes my&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;setup a little<BR>&gt; further than I prefer. It is<BR>&gt; a great pattern&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;and I<BR>&gt; compliment&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;the designers<BR>&gt; for having a nice flow. Mike&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;--- On Tue,<BR>&gt; 5/5/09, &lt;a rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com"&gt;verne@twmi.rr.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;&lt;a<BR>&gt; rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com"&gt;verne@twmi.rr.com&lt;/a&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;From: &lt;a<BR>&gt; rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com"&gt;verne@twmi.rr.com&lt;/a&gt;<BR>&gt; &lt;&lt;a rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com"&gt;verne@twmi.rr.com&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Subject: Re:<BR>&gt; [NSRCA-discussion] Length of<BR>&gt; 2011 Masters&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; type="cite"&gt;Sequence&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;To:<BR>&gt; "General pattern discussion"&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;&lt;a<BR>&gt; rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"&gt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Date:<BR>&gt; Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 10:24 AM&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;If it sounded<BR>&gt; as though I were<BR>&gt; complaining that the&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; type="cite"&gt;current&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Masters<BR>&gt; schedule takes too long, I<BR>&gt; wasn't. Just&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;commenting<BR>&gt; that it takes a lot longer<BR>&gt; than the&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;previous<BR>&gt; one.&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;For me, eight<BR>&gt; minutes from takeoff to<BR>&gt; landing approach&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;(my&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;timer is<BR>&gt; started on takeoff and is almost<BR>&gt; always&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; type="cite"&gt;beeping&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;during my<BR>&gt; landing). I fly at what I would<BR>&gt; call a&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; type="cite"&gt;medium&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;speed most of<BR>&gt; the time. &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;I'm also<BR>&gt; against flying the FAI-P<BR>&gt; schedule.&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; type="cite"&gt;I'd&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;rather fly a<BR>&gt; home-grown variant that we<BR>&gt; create&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; type="cite"&gt;ourselves.&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Verne<BR>&gt; Koester&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;---- Stuart<BR>&gt; Chale &lt;&lt;a rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:schale@optonline.net"&gt;schale@optonline.net&lt;/a&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; type="cite"&gt;_______________________________________________&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote<BR>&gt; type="cite"&gt;NSRCA-discussion mailing<BR>&gt; list&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;a<BR>&gt; rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"&gt;NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;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gt;www.avg.com&lt;/a&gt;<BR>&gt; &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Version:<BR>&gt; 8.5.285 / Virus Database:<BR>&gt; 270.12.17/2095 - Release&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;Date: 05/04/09<BR>&gt; 06:00:00&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; _______________________________________________&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; NSRCA-discussion mailing list&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;a rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; &nbsp;target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"&gt;NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &lt;a rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; class="moz-txt-link-freetext"<BR>&gt; target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion"&gt;http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;br&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;pre&gt;<BR>&gt; &lt;hr size="4" width="90%"&gt;<BR>&gt; _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>&gt; &lt;a rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"<BR>&gt; target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"&gt;NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&lt;/a&gt;<BR>&gt; &lt;a rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; class="moz-txt-link-freetext"<BR>&gt; target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion"&gt;http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;pre&gt;<BR>&gt; &lt;hr size="4" width="90%"&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>&gt; Checked by AVG - &lt;a rel="nofollow"<BR>&gt; class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"<BR>&gt; target="_blank"<BR>&gt; href="http://www.avg.com"&gt;www.avg.com&lt;/a&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.19/2099 - Release<BR>&gt; Date: 05/05/09 13:07:00<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &nbsp; &lt;/pre&gt;<BR>&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp;<BR>&gt; &lt;/html&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &lt;/div&gt;_______________________________________________<BR>&gt; NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>&gt; NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>&gt; http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR></P></div></body></html>