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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Matt,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for the kind words regarding the Space
City Contest.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll pass them along to the club membership&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Glen Watson (event coordinator)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Matthew Frederick</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:37
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
 pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Length of 2011 Masters Sequence</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I think y'all are starting to get somewhere with this
discussion. I remember the days of pattern contests in the south being 40+
pilots on a regular basis. I also remember how strict the rules were&nbsp;in
regards&nbsp;to getting up in the air quickly. There were 3 ready boxes leading
up to your time to fly, and you better be in them when you needed to be or you
lost your turn. I was at the <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Space</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">City</st1:PlaceType> contest this weekend in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
 w:st="on">Katy</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">TX</st1:State></st1:place> and
I must say I haven't seen a contest that well executed since I started flying
again 3 years ago. The CD wasn't even a pattern pilot! He just wanted to run an
efficient contest.&nbsp;There were 30 pilots evenly spread among all the
classes (although&nbsp;Advanced was definitely the largest at 8), and we had no
problem getting in 6 rounds and&nbsp;we were finished with the awards by 2:30
on&nbsp;Sunday. I think we should focus on running efficient contests before we
start worrying about how long it takes to fly a sequence. I've also seen a
couple comments about the electrics being at a disadvantage due to the length.
For what it's worth I think the sequences should drive the technology used, not
the other way around. Oh, by the way, I judged a round of Masters and the only
thing that bothered me about it was that my legs were already sunburnt from
sitting through 2 rounds of Sportsman and 2 rounds of Intermediate the day
before.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Matt</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:wemodels@cox.net" title="wemodels@cox.net">Bill's Email</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Tuesday,
May 05, 2009 1:46 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Length of 2011 Masters Sequence<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>John Ferrell wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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</xml><![endif]-->Based on experience as&nbsp;site director at the Nats and CD
at local contests I don't think the extra minute on the sequence is the
problem. The FAI guys are being as professional as possible and seldom take
their allotted time to take off. There a lot of guys flying Masters that you
have to run down and wake up before they even start to get ready to fly. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I've run a few larger aerobatic contests (40 to 60
pilots) and I found it is precisely those minutes that can kill you. Think
about it. 35 pilots each taking 1 minute extra. 35 minutes per round times 4 or
5 rounds, and WOW you are talking about an extra 2 hours 20 minutes to maybe 3
hours!! SO regardless of if it is in the sequence or on teh ground, those pesky
little minutes add up like mad!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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