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Is the integrated half roll horizontal at the bottom or at knife edge
at the bottom :)<br>
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I am one that likes the length of the masters sequence. It can be
completed in about 7 minutes or so. The IMAC guys that I fly with are
always surprised that there are so many maneuvers as they fly two
sequences per round. Nice to see them impressed about something to do
with pattern. I wouldn't like to see it get any longer though. <br>
As far as using the FAI schedules. It sure would make judging much
easier for both groups of pilots. I find it difficult to judge FAI as
I haven't memorized their sequence. Only hitting 1 or 2 contests per
year for the last couple of years makes it difficult to judge them
without a caller giving me the maneuvers. Flying the same sequence
would obviously make that easier. <br>
The FAI sequence is more difficult with some integrated rollers but I
think that is something most masters pilots could learn.<br>
<br>
Stuart<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Well, I'll just put in my opinion on
it since it affects me....</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Replacing the new masters pattern
with P-09 probably wouldn't be THAT big of a deal although I don't
really like that schedule. Fact is there's nothing in there a masters
pilot would have any serious problems with.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The same cannot be said for P-11.
The first manuever is a figure M with an integrated half roll in the
center, effectively placing the plane in knife edge headed down and
turning back upward. There are a lot of planes still out there that
won't turn the corner; it takes a VERY good plane or a very good pilot
to do it correctly. I've been playing with it for 2 years myself. I
made sure my plane would do it happily, but the older V2 wouldn't do it
happily...and a plane from the Focus era? Have fun. As I said it can be
done but it's definitely not fun.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">And that's just one manuever. With
the way FAI is going, lord only knows what the future holds. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">On the same subject I have a feeling
any "recreational" FAI competitor might be flying masters come next
year =)</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">-Mike</font></div>
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has probably been mentioned before but I would recommend simply using
the existing-whatever is at that time- FAI P pattern for the masters
sequence and allow it to be replaced by the upcoming P pattern every
cycle. The pilots are plenty good enough and it would really simplify
things and put everyone on the same page. I believe it would be
exciting and fun.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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has been some discussion on whether it is time to shorten the length of
the Masters sequence for 2011. A Poll has been set up on RCU to get the
current crop of Masters pilots and future Masters pilots opinions.<br>
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