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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>You should probably not be drawing more than abut 
200 to perhaps 250 mA for a 10 to 12 minute flight if there's a CDI module no 
it.&nbsp; Subtract about 100 mA if not CDI module.</FONT></DIV>
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  style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=cchariandy@yahoo.ca href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">colin 
  chariandy</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org 
  href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A> 
  ; <A title=glmiller3@suddenlink.net 
  href="mailto:glmiller3@suddenlink.net">glmiller3@suddenlink.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 27, 2009 4:40 
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] JR DSM 
  glitch - trouble-shooting.</DIV>
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        <DIV>Yes.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>I can't find by physical inspection any "wacked out servos" or 
        other issues that might cause increased current load on the regulator. 
        So....I'm trying to find the typical (or average) current that should be 
        seen at any moment (instant) on a meter in-line with the regulator. Then 
        I'll run my set-up and compare. If I'm in the ball park (less than 1A 
        based on a couple of inputs so far) then the problem is not related to 
        "wacked out" servos, binding etc.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Colin<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 4/27/09, Ed Alt 
        <I>&lt;ed_alt@hotmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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          Ed Alt &lt;ed_alt@hotmail.com&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 
          JR DSM glitch - trouble-shooting.<BR>To: 
          nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org, 
          glmiller3@suddenlink.net<BR>Received: Monday, April 27, 2009, 3:25 
          PM<BR><BR>
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          Average current is not the same as instantaneous current, unless the 
          <U>only</U> current being&nbsp;drawn was just for that <U>single 
          instant in time</U>.&nbsp; Anyway, I will repeat, with an added 
          quailifer, for the sake of understanding for where to look to help you 
          solve the problem:<BR>&nbsp;<BR>If you are using a JACCIO, Tech-Aero, 
          or whatever regulator in a pattern setup, even with a YS CDI on a 
          shared output, and if you find that you need a heat sink, 
          then:<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR><U>Something Else Is Wrong</U>.&nbsp; 
          Check your setup for binding linkages, stiff hinges, whacked out 
          servos, whatever.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Seriously, check your setup, OK?&nbsp; 
          Just trying to help here.<BR><BR>Regards<BR>Ed<BR>&nbsp;<BR>
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          Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:32:54 -0700<BR>From: 
          cchariandy@yahoo.ca<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org; 
          glmiller3@suddenlink.net<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] JR DSM 
          glitch - trouble-shooting.<BR><BR>
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                <DIV>Actually, if you consumed 200mAhr in 0.25hrs, then your 
                average&nbsp;(instantaneous) current was 800mA.</DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV>Colin.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 4/27/09, 
                glmiller3@suddenlink.net 
                <I>&lt;glmiller3@suddenlink.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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                  glmiller3@suddenlink.net 
                  &lt;glmiller3@suddenlink.net&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: 
                  [NSRCA-discussion] JR DSM glitch - trouble-shooting.<BR>To: 
                  "General pattern discussion" 
                  &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<BR>Cc: "colin 
                  chariandy" &lt;cchariandy@yahoo.ca&gt;<BR>Received: Monday, 
                  April 27, 2009, 12:34 PM<BR><BR>
                  <DIV class=EC_plainMail>Colin,<BR><BR>I'm running a different 
                  ignition system, but total consumption radio and ignition) for 
                  an entire 15 minute flight is about 200 mah..200 X4 = 800 
                  milliamps for an hour=&nbsp; 0.8 amps per hour &nbsp; &nbsp; 
                  So the instantaneous current shouldn't be 
                  much.<BR><BR>G<BR><BR>---- colin chariandy &lt;<A 
                  href="http://ca.mc313.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cchariandy@yahoo.ca" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank>cchariandy@yahoo.ca</A>&gt; wrote: 
                  <BR><BR>=============<BR>Does anyone know what the current 
                  consumption should be at idle/run-up for a typical 
                  YS170/Hyde/all digital 
                  servos&nbsp;installation?<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I'll stick a Watt's Up 
                  meter in there to see how much I'm pulling after the 
                  regulator.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Jim, what's the current limit for 
                  continuous operation and spike/inrush for your 
                  regulator?<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Colin.<BR><BR>--- On Sun, 4/26/09, 
                  James Oddino &lt;<A 
                  href="http://ca.mc313.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=joddino@socal.rr.com" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank>joddino@socal.rr.com</A>&gt; 
                  wrote:<BR><BR><BR>From: James Oddino &lt;<A 
                  href="http://ca.mc313.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=joddino@socal.rr.com" 
                  rel=nofollow 
                  target=_blank>joddino@socal.rr.com</A>&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: 
                  [NSRCA-discussion] JR DSM glitch - trouble-shooting.<BR>To: <A 
                  href="http://ca.mc313.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cchariandy@yahoo.ca" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank>cchariandy@yahoo.ca</A>, "General 
                  discussion" &lt;<A 
                  href="http://ca.mc313.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" 
                  rel=nofollow 
                  target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;<BR>Received: 
                  Sunday, April 26, 2009, 4:00 PM<BR><BR><BR>I don't believe a 
                  bad battery could cause the engine to rev up unless your 
                  battery failsafe isn't set properly. &nbsp;Make sure it is. 
                  &nbsp;<BR><BR><BR>The first thing I would look at is the 
                  possibility that the throttle servo is stalled at low speed. 
                  &nbsp;That could be pulling the battery/voltage regulator 
                  voltage down and it could recover after you started to 
                  throttle up and removed the heavy load. 
                  &nbsp;<BR><BR><BR>Finally I would run a one amp discharge test 
                  on the battery after it is fully charged to see if the battery 
                  is near its original capacity. &nbsp;The best way to do this 
                  is to plot the voltage vs. time taking readings every 5 to 10 
                  minutes.<BR><BR><BR>Hope this helps. &nbsp;Let us know what 
                  you find.<BR><BR><BR>Jim<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On Apr 25, 
                  2009, at 4:30 PM, <A 
                  href="http://ca.mc313.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cchariandy@yahoo.ca" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank>cchariandy@yahoo.ca</A> 
                  wrote:<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>I had a close call today 
                  with my R921 Rx in an Integral.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I noticed on taxi 
                  out that the engine rev'd up and quickly back down without any 
                  command. At first I thought I must have bumped the stick by 
                  accident. Then just before take-off there was no responce from 
                  the throttle for a second or two then it was back. I thought 
                  the 170 may have loaded up a little and didnt respond. It did 
                  that one more time before I aborted the flight. However, I 
                  could'nt reproduce the problem in the 
                  pits.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Before powering down, I checked for holds 
                  or fades on the data logger - nil.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Battery 
                  voltage droped from 8.2V to 7.8V and 7.6 under 1A load. When I 
                  re-charged it took 350mA and I was only on for 3-4 
                  mins.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Now...I did accidentally run the battery 
                  down to like 5V during winter but it did eventually 
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