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<font size=3>"Holey Cow", Guys, I get scores I don't deserve on
almost every maneuver I fly!!! The judges always insist on giving
me lower than I think I deserve... :-D<br><br>
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At 11:00 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote:<br><br>
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<font size=3 color="#0000FF"><b>I, like anyone else have gotten scores
that I didn't deserve,</b></font><font size=3> <br><br>
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--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Jon Lowe <jonlowe@aol.com> wrote:<br><br>
> From: Jon Lowe <jonlowe@aol.com><br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question<br>
> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:58 PM<br>
> Hey Chuck, you can't say ANYTHING anymore without<br>
> offending someone. <br>
> One radio commentator calls us the "United States of<br>
> the Offended".<br>
> <br>
> BTW, I cheat as much as possible when I fly. I also seem<br>
> to get caught <br>
> a lot, especially when my "cheat" makes things<br>
> worse. After all, wrong <br>
> rudder is the most powerful force in the universe,<br>
> isn't it?!<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Jon Lowe<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Chuck Hochhalter <cahochhalter@yahoo.com><br>
> To: General pattern discussion<br>
> <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
> Sent: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 8:05 pm<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I apologize if anyone took offense to my cheating comment. <br>
> My entire<br>
> flight is a cheat to avoid zeros. It was meant to be<br>
> humorous. Every<br>
> correction made is a "cheat" we hope is not<br>
> noticed so we receive the<br>
> highest score possible. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Chuck Hochhalter <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -------------------------------------------------- <br>
> <br>
> From: "billglaze"<br>
> <billglaze@bellsouth.net> <br>
> <br>
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:55 PM <br>
> <br>
> To: "General pattern discussion"<br>
> <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> <br>
> <br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche<br>
> question <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> > AHA! So, that was you!! Bill Glaze <br>
> <br>
> > ----- Original Message -----<br>
> > From: "Dave Burton"<br>
> <burtona@atmc.net> <br>
> <br>
> > To: <patternrules@yahoo.com>; "'General<br>
> pattern discussion'"<br>
> > <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> <br>
> <br>
> > Sent: Monday, April 06, 20<br>
> 09 5:09 PM <br>
> <br>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche<br>
> question <br>
> <br>
> > <br>
> <br>
> > <br>
> <br>
> >> At a contest last week end I failed to do a half<br>
> roll at the bottom <br>
> of<br>
> >> the <br>
> <br>
> >> triangle. I realized what I had done after pulling<br>
> to the up line <br>
> and <br>
> <br>
> >> skillfully did a full roll to get back in inverted<br>
> position for the<br>
> >> figure <br>
> <br>
> >> 9. Both judges zeroed the triangle for missing the<br>
> first half roll <br>
> but <br>
> <br>
> >> neither caught the full roll to get back inverted<br>
> until I told them <br>
> after <br>
> <br>
> >> the flight. <br>
> <br>
> >> Dave Burton <br>
> <br>
> >> <br>
> <br>
> >> -----Original Message----- <br>
> <br>
> >> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org <br>
> <br>
> >>
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<br>
> On Behalf Of <br>
> Steven <br>
> <br>
> >> Maxwell <br>
> <br>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:23 PM <br>
> <br>
> >> To: General pattern discussion <br>
> <br>
> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche<br>
> question <br>
> <br>
> >> <br>
> <br>
> >> <br>
> <br>
> >> Actually I did a wrong maneuver at a contest the<br>
> district <br>
> championships I <br>
> <br>
> >> only seen my scores after they had been put in the<br>
> computer I told <br>
> the CD <br>
> <br>
> >> that it should have been a zero and the next 2<br>
> maneuver also should <br>
> have <br>
> <br>
> >> been zero, till I corrected my position. <br>
> <br>
> >> Steve Maxwell <br>
> <br>
> >> <br>
> <br>
> >> <br>
> <br>
> >> --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Dennis Cone<br>
> <patternpilot@verizon.net> wrote:C2<br>
> <br>
> >> <br>
> <br>
> >>> From: Dennis Cone<br>
> <patternpilot@verizon.net> <br>
> <br>
> >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters<br>
> Avalanche question <br>
> <br>
> >>> To: "'General pattern<br>
> discussion'" <br>
> <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> <br>
> <br>
> >>> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 3:27 PM <br>
> <br>
> >>> I once was at a contest flying Masters in<br>
> which I found <br>
> <br>
> >>> myself right side up <br>
> <br>
> >>> when I should have been inverted. We were<br>
> flying into the <br>
> <br>
> >>> sun so I pulled <br>
> <br>
> >>> vertical right into the suns path, did the<br>
> required <br>
> <br>
> >>> maneuver and when I <br>
> <br>
> >>> reached the sun I rolled and pushed out of the<br>
> maneuver. I <br>
> <br>
> >>> was then in the <br>
> <br>
> >>> right position for the next maneuver. A round<br>
> later I was <br>
> <br>
> >>> calling for Frank <br>
> <br>
> >>> Capone and he did the same thing. So I<br>
> whispered to him to <br>
> <br>
> >>> pull into the sun <br>
> <br>
> >>> and roll right when he could not see it.<br>
> Neither one of us <br>
> <br>
> >>> got caught. Was <br>
> <br>
> >>> it cheating? Perhaps, but I like to call it<br>
> creative <br>
> <br>
> >>> flying. It was not <br>
> <br>
> >>> planned, so really not cheating. I'm sure<br>
> everyone has <br>
> <br>
> >>> done a maneuver <br>
> <br>
> >>> incorrectly and was not caught by the judges.<br>
> Did you tell <br>
> <br>
> >>> them to zero it? <br>
> <br>
> >>> Probably not. <br>
> <br>
> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> Dennis <br>
> <br>
> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> -----Original Message----- <br>
> <br>
> >>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@li<br>
> sts.nsrca.org <br>
> <br>
> >>><br>
>
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On<br>
> Behalf <br>
> <br>
> >>> Of Ron Van Putte <br>
> <br>
> >>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:13 AM <br>
> <br>
> >>> To: General pattern discussion <br>
> <br>
> >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters<br>
> Avalanche question <br>
> <br>
> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> It's only cheating if you get caught. <br>
> <br>
> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> Ron <br>
> <br>
> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> On Apr 5, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hochhalter<br>
> wrote: <br>
> <br>
> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> > Ron, that is cheating, you should<br>
> immediately point <br>
> <br>
> >>> out to the <br>
> <br>
> >>> > judges that you lead the snap in order to<br>
> preserve the <br>
> <br>
> >>> geometry of <br>
> <br>
> >>> > the maneuver. <br>
> <br>
> >>> > <br>
> <br>
> >>> ><br>
> -------------------------------------------------- <br>
> <br>
> >>> > From: "Ronald Van Putte" <br>
> <br>
> >>> <vanputte@cox.net> <br>
> <br>
> >>> > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:34 PM <br>
> <br>
> >>> > To: "General pattern<br>
> discussion" <br>
> <br>
> >>> <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> <br>
> <br>
> >>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters<br>
> Avalanche <br>
> <br>
> >>> question <br>
> <br>
> >>> > <br>
> <br>
> >>> >> What you can try is easing some yaw<br>
> in by putting <br>
> <br>
> >>> in a bit of <br>
> <br>
> >>> >> left rudder just before entering
the<br>
> snap (the <br>
> <br>
> >>> judges probably <br>
> <br>
> >>> >> won't even notice). <br>
> <br>
> >>> >> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >> Ron <br>
> <br>
> >>> >> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >> On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Keith<br>
> Black wrote: <br>
> <br>
> >>> >> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> I'm having trouble with the<br>
> Masters <br>
> <br>
> >>> Avalanche and wanted to see <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> if anyone had any suggestions or<br>
> was <br>
> <br>
> >>> experiencing the same problem. <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> Entering the maneuver left to<br>
> right then <br>
> <br>
> >>> pushing the half loop <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> to the snap, If I attempt a<br>
> positive snap to <br>
> <br>
> >>> the right (which <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> rotates the plane away from the<br>
> flight line) <br>
> <br>
> >>> the nose comes <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> around nicely to complete the<br>
> arch of the <br>
> <br>
> >>> loop, but ends <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> pointing about 20 degrees away<br>
> from the <br>
> <br>
> >>> flight line. If I stay <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> on the rudder after the snap I<br>
> can <br>
> <br>
> >>> immediately put the plane <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> back in line, but it's quite<br>
> ugly and <br>
> <br>
> >>> obvious rather than <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> smoothly exiting the snap <br>
> parallel to the <br>
> <br>
> >>> flight line. I've <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> tried using less rudder, but have<br>
> not been <br>
> <br>
> >>> able to get that to <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> work any better. <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> I've also tried an outside<br>
> snap but to me <br>
> <br>
> >>> this looks terrible <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> and the nose is elevated on<br>
> exit. <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> The plane is a Beryll. <br>
> =0<br>
> A<br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> Any suggestions would be greatly<br>
> appreciated. <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> Thanks, <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> Keith Black <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>> >>> <br>
> <br>
> >>><br>
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