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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>We have 8 minutes. As of now we finish our
flights after the 7 min mark. To get scored on t/o and landing, we would need to
try... and also take the time on landing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A
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<A title=schale@optonline.net href="mailto:schale@optonline.net">Stuart
Chale</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:11
PM</DIV>
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and Takeoffs</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>You (FAI) still have to take off and land. How much
longer would it take to make a pretty take off and landing instead of what you
do now. I suspect the landing would be the same as you still have to
slow down to landing speed :) The takeoff may take what 3 or 4 seconds
more to fly smoothly to 2 meters before turning somewhere? Keep the time
limit as it is on the flying portion and just score the takeoff and landings 1
to 10.<BR>Done :)<BR><BR>J Shu wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>Because it takes time to make a perfect
take-off and landing, and currently the time stops after the half roll after
the 45-downs. We wouldn't have enough time unless the time limit was
raised.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com"
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Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:56 PM</DIV>
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landings and Takeoffs</DIV>
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<DIV>Why would FAI have less time for scored TO's/L's than any other
class? With the exception of Sportsman (and possibly Intermediate),
FAI flys the shortest sequence. Masters in particular takes way
longer.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jerry </DIV>
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<DIV><BR>On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:25 AM, "J Shu" <<A
href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">jshulman@cfl.rr.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>I'm certainly not THE expert... I'm
just going by my observations of pattern now to pattern when I was a
kid. Like Stuart said, nothing beat a nose high take-off or landing down
the centerline... and not many could do it. At least back then the only
planes I remember running from weren't pattern planes, but scale
planes!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>I used to always lose bets with my
brother for the best take-off and landings cause his Ugly Stick was the
perfect plane for that. He would line it up on the center line and roll
down the runway, lift the nose just before the judges and break ground
just after... 10. And then do the same thing for landing and get 10's
there too. But his loops always ended up in the next county so I won the
flying bets. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>FAI doesn't need to have scored
take-offs and landings... we don't have time for it. But I don't see why
AMA shouldn't be scored (and taught) on take-offs and landings. If
you're a good pilot, then these should be freebie points for the taking.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com"
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landings and Takeoffs</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=5>There you have it from THE expert
!!!!!!!!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landings and Takeoffs</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>I'd much rather see take-offs
and landings be judged. What's the incentive of having a pilot
learn how to learn a proper (and safe) take-off and landing if there
is no 10 to shoot for? And not a 0 or 10, but scored. Just because
it wouldn't be scored doesn't make a pilot try and make a safe
take-off or landing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
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<DIV>I agree, TO's and Landings shouldn't be judged. Add one
turn around and center maneuver to the classes that score
them. Exit the box down wind then they can make a 180 to
landing.</DIV>
<DIV>Tim<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 3/2/09, George W.Kennie
<I><<A href="mailto:geobet4@verizon.net"
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wrote:<BR></DIV>
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George W.Kennie <<A href="mailto:geobet4@verizon.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">geobet4@verizon.net</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landings and Takeoffs<BR>To:
"General pattern discussion" <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>Date:
Monday, March 2, 2009, 4:44 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv380045516>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>I think that dropping the
scoring of TOs and LGs with the intent of reducing
risk will be only minimally effective. There are
always going to be individuals who will experience
difficulty with crossing winds, turbulance, ineptitude,
whatever, no matter how many times they go around. I can
think of individuals who would include me in the
group.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>G.</FONT> </DIV>
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landings and Takeoffs</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle15><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You make a
good argument for dropping takeoff and landing scoring.
I have aborted landings more than
once.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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02, 2009 10:28 AM<BR><B><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=inherit color=black
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: inherit">I'll
say it here, JMHO. I personally don't think takeoffs
and landings should be judged. These are the
maneuvers that put the plane closest to the
pilots/judges/spectators. I've seen some bad
takeoffs and landing approaches pushed
to dangerous situations when they would
probably have been aborted had they not been scored
maneuvers. At the very least, the airplane is at
risk. At the most, people are at risk. I've had one
plane fly behind my head at the Nats (between
myself, my caller, and the judges) during a landing
when the plane got away from the pilot during one
such occurance. I've also seen a plane slam into a
person in the pits at full throttle, just after
lifting off the ground, when the plane first veered
away from the pits and the pilot forced the takeoff
by kicking rudder to get it back on the runway. At
no point did he back off the throttle. In most
situations such as this, anyone would have aborted
and started over, but because they are being judged
they keep on pushing a bad
situation.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=inherit
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: inherit">And,
no, niether situation involved someone in the
Sportsman or Intermediate classes. These were both
contestants that had flown pattern for several
years. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=inherit
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: inherit">I
thank god they don't judge takeoffs and landings in
IMAC.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=inherit
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On <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Mon, 3/2/09,
George W.Kennie <I><SPAN
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<DIV id=yiv297695904>I don't feel the same way as
John on the landing maneuver being relegated to a
non-skill element. <FONT face=inherit
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aerobatic maneuvers that we perform competitively
require that we demonstrate to a judge that we have
developed some precise degree of control over the
airframe under our command. To achieve this control
further requires intense concentration on the part
of the pilot. I would offer that there are many
airborne maneuvers where the degree of concentration
required by the pilot are significantly lower than
that required to bring the airframe back into
contact with terra firma and demonstrate complete
and confident control. This is a skill that is
worthy of reward in my viewpoint.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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