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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>Because it takes time to make a perfect 
take-off and landing, and currently the time stops after the half roll after the 
45-downs. We wouldn't have enough time unless the time limit was 
raised.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A 
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A 
href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A><BR></DIV>
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  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=jerry@buddengineering.com 
  href="mailto:jerry@buddengineering.com">Budd Engineering</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org 
  href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:56 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landings 
  and Takeoffs</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Why would FAI have less time for scored TO's/L's than any other class? 
  &nbsp;With the exception of Sportsman (and possibly Intermediate), FAI flys 
  the shortest sequence. &nbsp;Masters in particular takes way longer.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Jerry&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
  <DIV><BR>On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:25 AM, "J Shu" &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">jshulman@cfl.rr.com</A>&gt; 
  wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>I'm certainly not THE expert... I'm just 
    going by my observations of pattern now to pattern when I was a kid. Like 
    Stuart said, nothing beat a nose high take-off or landing down the 
    centerline... and not many could do it. At least back then the only planes I 
    remember running from weren't pattern planes, but scale planes!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>I used to always lose bets with my 
    brother for the best take-off and landings cause his Ugly Stick was the 
    perfect plane for that. He would line it up on the center line and roll down 
    the runway, lift the nose just before the judges and break ground just 
    after... 10. And then do the same thing for landing and get 10's there too. 
    But his loops always ended up in the next county so I won the flying bets. 
    </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>FAI doesn't need to have scored 
    take-offs and landings... we don't have time for it. But I don't see why AMA 
    shouldn't be scored (and taught) on take-offs and landings. If you're a good 
    pilot, then these should be freebie points for the taking. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com"><A 
    href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A></A><BR><A 
    href="http://www.composite-arf.com"><A 
    href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A></A><BR></DIV>
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
      <DIV 
      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
      <A title=geobet4@verizon.net href="mailto:geobet4@verizon.net">George 
      W.Kennie</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
      title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org 
      href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern 
      discussion</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 03, 2009 8:46 
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 
      Landings and Takeoffs</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=5>There you have it from THE&nbsp; expert 
      !!!!!!!!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        <DIV 
        style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
        <A title=jshulman@cfl.rr.com href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">J Shu</A> 
        </DIV>
        <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
        title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org 
        href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern 
        discussion</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 02, 2009 6:06 
        PM</DIV>
        <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 
        Landings and Takeoffs</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>I'd much rather see take-offs and 
        landings be judged. What's the incentive&nbsp;of having a pilot learn 
        how to learn a proper (and safe) take-off and landing if there is no 10 
        to shoot for? And not a 0 or 10, but scored. Just because it wouldn't be 
        scored doesn't make a pilot try and make a safe take-off or 
        landing.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A 
        href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com"><A 
        href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A></A><BR><A 
        href="http://www.composite-arf.com"><A 
        href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A></A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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          <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
          <DIV 
          style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
          <A title=timsautopro@yahoo.com href="mailto:timsautopro@yahoo.com">Tim 
          Taylor</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
          title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org 
          href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern 
          discussion</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 02, 2009 4:53 
          PM</DIV>
          <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 
          Landings and Takeoffs</DIV>
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                <DIV>I agree, TO's and Landings shouldn't be judged. Add one 
                turn around and center maneuver to the classes that score them. 
                Exit the box down wind then they can make a 180 to 
landing.</DIV>
                <DIV>Tim<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 3/2/09, George W.Kennie <I>&lt;<A 
                href="mailto:geobet4@verizon.net"><A 
                href="mailto:geobet4@verizon.net">geobet4@verizon.net</A></A>&gt;</I></B> 
                wrote:<BR></DIV>
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                style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: 
                  George W.Kennie &lt;<A href="mailto:geobet4@verizon.net"><A 
                  href="mailto:geobet4@verizon.net">geobet4@verizon.net</A></A>&gt;<BR>Subject: 
                  Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landings and Takeoffs<BR>To: "General 
                  pattern discussion" &lt;<A 
                  href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;<BR>Date: 
                  Monday, March 2, 2009, 4:44 PM<BR><BR>
                  <DIV id=yiv380045516>
                  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>I think that dropping the scoring 
                  of&nbsp; TOs and LGs with the intent of reducing risk will be 
                  only minimally effective. There&nbsp;are always going to be 
                  individuals who will experience difficulty with crossing 
                  winds, turbulance, ineptitude, whatever, no matter how many 
                  times they go around. I can think of individuals who would 
                  include me in the group.</FONT></DIV>
                  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>G.</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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                    <DIV 
                    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> 
                    <A title=jnhiller@earthlink.net 
                    href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net" target=_blank 
                    rel=nofollow>J N Hiller</A> </DIV>
                    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
                    title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com" 
                    target=_blank rel=nofollow><A 
                    href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">bob@toprudder.com</A></A> ; 
                    <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org 
                    href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank 
                    rel=nofollow>General pattern discussion</A> </DIV>
                    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 02, 
                    2009 3:13 PM</DIV>
                    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
                    [NSRCA-discussion] Landings and Takeoffs</DIV>
                    <DIV><BR></DIV>
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                    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle15><FONT face=Arial 
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                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You make a good 
                    argument for dropping takeoff and landing scoring. I have 
                    aborted landings more than 
                    once.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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                    color=navy size=2><SPAN 
                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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                  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original 
                  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN 
                  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A 
                  href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" 
                  target=_blank rel=nofollow><A 
                  href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A></A> 
                  [<A 
                  href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<B><SPAN 
                  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Bob 
                  Richards<BR><B><SPAN 
                  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, March 02, 
                  2009 10:28 AM<BR><B><SPAN 
                  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern 
                  discussion<BR><B><SPAN 
                  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: 
                  [NSRCA-discussion] Landings and Takeoffs</SPAN></FONT> </P>
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                        style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: inherit">I'll 
                        say it here, JMHO. I personally don't think takeoffs and 
                        landings should be judged. These are the maneuvers that 
                        put the plane closest to the pilots/judges/spectators. 
                        I've seen some bad takeoffs and landing approaches 
                        pushed to&nbsp;dangerous situations when they would 
                        probably have been aborted had they not been scored 
                        maneuvers. At the very least, the airplane is at risk. 
                        At the most, people are at risk. I've had one plane fly 
                        behind my head at the Nats (between myself, my caller, 
                        and the judges) during a landing when the plane got away 
                        from the pilot during one such occurance. I've also seen 
                        a plane slam into a person in the pits at full throttle, 
                        just after lifting off the ground, when the plane first 
                        veered away from the pits and the pilot forced the 
                        takeoff by kicking rudder to get it back on the runway. 
                        At no point did he back off the throttle. In most 
                        situations such as this, anyone would have aborted and 
                        started over, but because they are being judged they 
                        keep on pushing a bad situation.</SPAN></FONT><FONT 
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                        style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: inherit">And, 
                        no, niether situation involved someone in the Sportsman 
                        or Intermediate classes. These were both contestants 
                        that had flown pattern for several years. 
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                        style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: inherit">I 
                        thank god they don't judge takeoffs and landings in 
                        IMAC.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=inherit color=black><SPAN 
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                        style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: inherit">Bob 
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                        On <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Mon, 3/2/09, 
                        George W.Kennie <I><SPAN 
                        style="FONT-STYLE: italic">&lt;<A 
                        href="mailto:geobet4@verizon.net">geobet4@verizon.net</A>&gt;</SPAN></I></SPAN></B> 
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                        <DIV id=yiv297695904>I don't feel the same way as John 
                        on the landing maneuver being relegated to a non-skill 
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                        style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"><FONT 
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                        style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">All 
                        aerobatic maneuvers that we perform competitively 
                        require that we demonstrate to a judge that we have 
                        developed some precise degree of control over the 
                        airframe under our command. To achieve this control 
                        further requires intense concentration on the part of 
                        the pilot. I would offer that there are many airborne 
                        maneuvers where the degree of concentration required by 
                        the pilot are significantly lower than that required to 
                        bring the airframe back into contact with terra firma 
                        and demonstrate complete and confident control. This is 
                        a skill that is worthy of reward in my 
                        viewpoint.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=inherit 
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