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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Here’s another one for you (assuming
“landing zone” and “landing area” are synonymous):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>From the description<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=Default><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>If the touchdown is within the runway but not in the
landing zone it should be downgraded proportionate to the distance outside the
landing zone. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>From the judging guide section<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=Default><b><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>9</span></font></b><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>. Aircraft lands outside the landing area or runway,
zero (0) points. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I guess the description would take precedent…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>billglaze<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 02, 2009 4:27
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Jim Quinn; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Judging Questions</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Jim:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>That's what we're trying to hash out here; just what is the rule?
Some questions abound; Chris straightened out some of the stuff, but it
appears from the differences here that a further definition may be required;
somebody mentioned next rules cycle. Sounds good to me. Georgie had
a good interpretation, looking at the anomalies, which should be, and can be,
eliminated, I feel. Chris, (and many others) also have been helpful.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>BTW: did you get my check?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Bill Glaze</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net" title="jaqfly@prodigy.net">Jim Quinn</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Monday, March 02,
2009 4:16 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
14.0pt'>If you're rolling on the pavement at the Nats or on the grass at the
Black Dirt's runway there is a huge difference in the roll out. I say just
follow the rule.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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14.0pt'>Jim Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> George
W.Kennie <<a href="mailto:geobet4@verizon.net">geobet4@verizon.net</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName> <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 2, 2009
12:22:40 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Judging Questions</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'># 2 screw-up !!!! It's not "roll to a stop
within 15 meters", it's 10 meters, but the "stop" is still
the elementle crux, I think. If it says " no downgrade if the model
rolls to a stop within 10 meters" doesn't that infer that if the
model continues to roll beyond that distance it becomews a downgradeable
offence (1/2pt +)?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>And if it's not a centered maneuver, where'd we come up with
the axiom " for maximum landing points, touchdown should occur <
2 meters either side of the centerline"? Is that FAI ?</span></font> <font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Did I make it up? Am I totally
losing it? How the heck is anyone expected to keep all this stuff straight?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:jlkonn@hotmail.com" target="_blank" title="jlkonn@hotmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:jlkonn@hotmail.com">John Konneker</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">Discussion List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Monday, March 02,
2009 11:32 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Cut and pasted from the AMA website this morning:<br>
</span></font><b><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Landing:
</span></font></b><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>The landing
maneuver will be scored in half point increments from 10 to 0. The maneuver
will start two (2) meters from the ground. The model flares smoothly to a nose
high altitude, dissipating flying speed, and then smoothly touches the ground,
within the landing zone. The maneuver should be considered <strong><b><font
face="Times New Roman">complete once the plane has slowed below flying speed
and rolled 10 meters or comes to a stop and no further downgrades shall be
applied after that point</font></b></strong>. <br>
The landing zone shall be marked by lines placed perpendicular across the
runway and spaced 30 meters apart. The width of the landing zone is normally
the width of the runway but in no case shall exceed 30 meters. <strong><b><font
face="Times New Roman">Landing is not a centered maneuver and there is no
downgrade for displacement of the touchdown point left or right from center as
long as the landing is in the landing zone.</font></b></strong> If the
touchdown is within the runway but not in the landing zone it should be
downgraded proportionate to the distance outside the landing zone. The Contest
Director may designate any landing zone appropriate to the field if safety
considerations dictate. If the landing zone is anything other than standard it
should be thoroughly discussed with the pilots and judges before flying is
started and no downgrade shall be applied due to the touchdown in the
non-standard landing zone. <br>
</span></font>Emphasis added by me. This of course for AMA classes.<font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>
JLK<br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: geobet4@verizon.net<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:15:23 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:Arial'>Bill,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:Arial'>This is probably inaccurate, but I notice that noone else
has responded to your inquiry so just to prove that I have not learned my
lesson, here goes. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:Arial'>In the landing descriptor it states, " there is no down
grade if the model rolls to a stop within 15 meters". I think
the crucial word is STOP ! What does this mean to proper
execution? How many times have you seen a plane touch down
perfectly within one meter of the center line and then proceed to roll
perfectly straight down the center of the runway without a single bounce for a
distance of 150 feet? A little hot maybe, but to most observers, a
beautiful landing. In light of the "Stop within 15 meters"
stipulation, it would appear that this becomes a downgradeable offence. Sounds,
to me, like maybe it's the pilot's responsibility to also control the approach
airspeed so that touchdown occurs just above stall speed controlling the
rollout distance, but maybe somebody will correct me on this. I think this
would also cover stuff like flipovers after the 15 meter rollout.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:Arial'>If the pilot performs a landing and meets all the above
requirements and then encounters an obstacle, whether that be a hole or a
hummock or whatever, I would deem the execution faultless and rule "beyond
the pilot's control" and score a 10. Flipovers usually occur as a
result of either the plane being outside the landing zone or equipment
malfunction ( stuck wheel e.t.c.) and would require discretionary judgement on
the part of the scorer.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:Arial'>And yup, I agree, It's got to be a physical impossibility to
enter and exit a Split Esse at the same altitude. I think that needs
correcting. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:Arial'>Of course, all this is my opinionated interpretation of
matters and should be so received.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:billglaze@bellsouth.net" target="_blank"
title="billglaze@bellsouth.net" ymailto="mailto:billglaze@bellsouth.net">billglaze</a>
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href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca- discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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2009 4:30 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [NSRCA-discussion]
Judging Questions<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>At the risk of starting another downwind turn discussion:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>I've been reading over the excellent PowerPoint presentation, and I'd
like a question answered that I've had for a long time.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>On landing, if the plane overturns AT ANY TIME is it an automatic
zero? I've felt for a long time that it should be, yet I've had people
tell me "after 50 ft. landing roll, we've completely lost interest in the
airplane." It can roll anywhere, do anything, and it doesn't affect
the score, is their idea. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Also, if it TOUCHES DOWN in the landing zone, and then rolls immediately
into what awaits, (in some cases, a small canyon) is the landing zeroed?
I've been called for doing so once.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Secondly, in reading the presentation for Intermediate, it states for
the Split S: A downgrade if the entry and exit are not at the same
altitude. Seems to me to be an error that slipped by, but I've been wrong
before. (Honest; yes, it's happened!)<G> I've been known to
incorrectly read/interpret also. Standing by for the more knowledgeable
brains on the list!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Bill Glaze</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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