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Hi Gene<BR>
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This exact thing was brought up last season about the "three opposite rolls" in FAI.<BR>
I believe the term "no perceiveable" hesitation between changing directions was used<BR>
to cover that.... LOL I guess that means you better hit the point before you move the<BR>
stick the other way! My guess is that if you are within a couple degrees of the point,<BR>
no one could see that anyway. You are immediately changing roll direction, and the time<BR>
spent at the point of change is so short, you'd have to be somewhere around five degrees<BR>
off before it was actually seen as being "off". The slower the roll, the easier it is to see<BR>
wing position in real time. If you are rolling in slow roll fashion, the judge could easily see<BR>
if wing position is off. I guess this is all splitting hairs, because if you reverse a roll at any<BR>
time, the wing has to stop rotation before it goes the other way, hence a hesitation....<BR>
This could drive a guy nuts.... But in my case, who could tell?!<BR>
<BR>
Rex<BR> <BR>
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From: gene.maurice@sgmservice.com<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:24:39 -0600<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2009 sequence diagrams are posted onthe NSRCA site<BR><BR>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">You are correct Jim... there is no hesitation between the two seperate 2/2.<BR>Each 2/2 has a hesitation after the half roll to inverted. So, to put it as a <BR>description of requirements, you'd have "half roll", hesitation, "half roll", NO HESITATION,<BR>"half roll", hesitation, "half roll"....<BR> <BR>Rex<BR> </SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN class=EC_ecemailstyle19><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">George now you have me confused. I understood that there was to be NO hesitation between the two 2/2 rolls reversed. A noticeable hesitation would warrant a downgrade. PPT page 18 and RCA-33 agree on this.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Thanks, all, for the feedback on these presentations - now if I could only FLY the Masters 09 sequence... !</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"></SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">BURN FUEL! (ok.... or electrons, as appropriate...)</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"></SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Jon Lowe <<A href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com">jonlowe@aol.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 44.55pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Rick,<BR>I want to thank you for posting these. I read thru the Powerpoint presentation on the Masters sequence last nite, and picked up on two key points that I had completely missed. I hadn't thought about pulling early on the start of the hourglass to maintain geometry, and I had completely missed the fact that there is no hesitation in the two, two of two rolls opposite. I had been practicing both manuevers incorrectly.. In fact, I would have sworn there WAS a hesitation in the rolls before I read your presentation and rechecked the rules. Now if the weather would break so I could get more practice...<BR><BR>Job well done.<BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #888888; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><BR><BR>Jon Lowe</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"></SPAN></P>
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