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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=3>Actually Rex, there are 'seen' pauses
in the 3 rolls in FAI, sorry. But the opposite negative snaps in F are like what
this reversed 2pt is.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=3>Not that it means anything, but I
think it looks better with all the point-rolls having an equal
pause.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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2009 sequencediagrams are posted onthe NSRCA site</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Gene<BR> <BR>This exact thing was brought up last
season about the "three opposite rolls" in FAI.<BR>I believe the
term "no perceiveable" hesitation between changing directions was used<BR>to
cover that.... LOL I guess that means you better hit the point
before you move the<BR>stick the other way! My guess is that if you
are within a couple degrees of the point,<BR>no one could see that
anyway. You are immediately changing roll direction, and the
time<BR>spent at the point of change is so short, you'd have to be somewhere
around five degrees<BR>off before it was actually seen as being
"off". The slower the roll, the easier it is to see<BR>wing
position in real time. If you are rolling in slow roll fashion,
the judge could easily see<BR>if wing position is off. I guess this is
all splitting hairs, because if you reverse a roll at any<BR>time, the wing
has to stop rotation before it goes the other way, hence a
hesitation....<BR>This could drive a guy nuts.... But in my case,
who could tell?!<BR> <BR>Rex<BR> <BR>
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you have to stop the plane to show the second point (2 of 2) and then reverse
the roll direction (Reversed)? Doesn’t that “stop” create an inherent
hesitation (Per Webster: to delay momentarily : pause )? If there is no
delay have you presented a point and therefore really performed a two point
roll?</SPAN></P>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Rex<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 01, 2009 1:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA-discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2009
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">You are correct
Jim... there is no hesitation between the two seperate 2/2.<BR>Each
2/2 has a hesitation after the half roll to inverted. So, to put it as
a <BR>description of requirements, you'd have "half roll", hesitation,
"half roll", NO HESITATION,<BR>"half roll", hesitation, "half
roll"....<BR> <BR>Rex<BR> </SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">From:
jnhiller@earthlink.net<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date: Sun, 1
Mar 2009 10:15:39 -0800<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2009
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now you have me confused. I understood that there was to be NO hesitation
between the two 2/2 rolls reversed. A noticeable hesitation would warrant a
downgrade. PPT page 18 and RCA-33 agree on this.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>George
W.Kennie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 01, 2009 9:47 AM<BR><B>To:</B> General
pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2009
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style="FONT-SIZE: 100pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">You've
been doing it correctly. That's a list of downgrades. If there's no
hesitation, it's a downgrade. </SPAN><SPAN
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[NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2009 sequence diagrams are posted onthe NSRCA
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style="COLOR: black">Thanks, all, for the feedback on these presentations -
now if I could only FLY the Masters 09 sequence... !</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">BURN FUEL! (ok.... or electrons, as
appropriate...)</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Jon Lowe <<A
href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com">jonlowe@aol.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN><SPAN
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style="COLOR: black">Rick,<BR>I want to thank you for posting these. I
read thru the Powerpoint presentation on the Masters sequence last nite, and
picked up on two key points that I had completely missed. I hadn't
thought about pulling early on the start of the hourglass to maintain
geometry, and I had completely missed the fact that there is no
hesitation in the two, two of two rolls opposite. I had been practicing
both manuevers incorrectly.. In fact, I would have sworn there WAS a
hesitation in the rolls before I read your presentation and rechecked the
rules. Now if the weather would break so I could get more
practice...<BR><BR>Job well done.<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #888888; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><BR><BR>Jon
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wallace <<A
href="mailto:rickwallace45@gmail.com">rickwallace45@gmail.com</A>><BR>To:
General pattern discussion <<A
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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 6:49 am<BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2009 sequence
diagrams are posted on the NSRCA
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style="COLOR: black">The current Masters seequence is posted on the NSCA
website (along with all the other current sequences) at<BR><BR><BR><A
href="http://nsrca.us/judginghome.html">http://nsrca.us/judginghome..html</A><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR>Click
the desired AMA class link in the middle of the page to open or save the
presentation.<BR><BR><BR>-- Each file is 2MB or a little less -dodwnload
may take a few seconds<BR><BR><BR> -- Might as well save it on your local
computer for later reference..!<BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR>These
presentations try to capture the rulebook downgrades and some helpful tips
but, as always, the current rulebook is the
authority!<BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR>Links to FAI P09 and F09 sequences and
call cards are in the listing to the right of the
page.<BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR>Enjoy--!<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN
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