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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Sorry Jon and Jim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Thanks to Troy, I stand corrected.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>G.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=troy@troynewman.net href="mailto:troy@troynewman.net">Troy Newman</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 01, 2009 4:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters
2009sequencediagrams are posted onthe NSRCA site</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">As
Jas says<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">FAI
is different in this regard than Masters.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">In
FAI there is a general rule that each roll must have a definite start and stop
to the roll element. As a result in FAI the rolls must have minimal
hesitation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">In
AMA pattern as defined by this rule the wing needs to come down and bounce the
opposite direction. Essentially for max score meaning no downgrade for
this the wing needs to hit perfectly level and immediately go the other
direction. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">This
is a 2pt roll….that does not mean it has 2 points it means it has 2 ˝
rolls. Count the rolls not the points.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Same
issue in a 4pt roll….same issue in other figures. They are hesitation rolls.
And the rolling element is the important part.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Up
until P-09 the FAI (2) ˝ rolls reversed had the reversal immediate as well. In
the current P-09 and later the pause between the ˝ rolls is defined as the
length of the roll element. This is not the case in AMA
pattern<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">We
need to keep these two definitions separated. They are
different.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Troy<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>J
Shu<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 01, 2009 1:59 PM<BR><B>To:</B> General
pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters
2009sequencediagrams are posted onthe NSRCA
site<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Actually Rex, there are
'seen' pauses in the 3 rolls in FAI, sorry. But the opposite negative snaps in
F are like what this reversed 2pt is.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Not that it means
anything, but I think it looks better with all the point-rolls having an equal
pause.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">----- Original
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=trexlesh@msn.com href="mailto:trexlesh@msn.com">Rex</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Sunday, March
01, 2009 3:52 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2009 sequencediagrams are posted onthe NSRCA
site<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Hi
Gene<BR> <BR>This exact thing was brought up last season
about the "three opposite rolls" in FAI.<BR>I believe the term "no
perceiveable" hesitation between changing directions was used<BR>to cover
that.... LOL I guess that means you better hit the point before
you move the<BR>stick the other way! My guess is that if you are
within a couple degrees of the point,<BR>no one could see that
anyway. You are immediately changing roll direction, and the
time<BR>spent at the point of change is so short, you'd have to be somewhere
around five degrees<BR>off before it was actually seen as being
"off". The slower the roll, the easier it is to see<BR>wing
position in real time. If you are rolling in slow roll fashion,
the judge could easily see<BR>if wing position is off. I guess this is
all splitting hairs, because if you reverse a roll at any<BR>time, the wing
has to stop rotation before it goes the other way, hence a
hesitation....<BR>This could drive a guy nuts.... But in my case,
who could tell?!<BR> <BR>Rex<BR> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">From:
gene.maurice@sgmservice.com<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date:
Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:24:39 -0600<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters
2009 sequence diagrams are posted onthe NSRCA site<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Don’t
you have to stop the plane to show the second point (2 of 2) and then
reverse the roll direction (Reversed)? Doesn’t that “stop” create an
inherent hesitation (Per Webster: to delay momentarily : pause )? If
there is no delay have you presented a point and therefore really performed
a two point roll?</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Rex<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 01, 2009 1:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA-discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2009
sequence diagrams are posted onthe NSRCA site</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">You are correct
Jim... there is no hesitation between the two seperate
2/2.<BR>Each 2/2 has a hesitation after the half roll to inverted. So,
to put it as a <BR>description of requirements, you'd have "half roll",
hesitation, "half roll", NO HESITATION,<BR>"half roll", hesitation, "half
roll"....<BR> <BR>Rex<BR> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">From:
jnhiller@earthlink.net<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date: Sun,
1 Mar 2009 10:15:39 -0800<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2009
sequence diagrams are posted onthe NSRCA site<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">George
now you have me confused. I understood that there was to be NO hesitation
between the two 2/2 rolls reversed. A noticeable hesitation would warrant a
downgrade. PPT page 18 and RCA-33 agree on this.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>George
W.Kennie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 01, 2009 9:47 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters
2009 sequence diagrams are posted onthe NSRCA site</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 100pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Jon,</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 100pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">You've
been doing it correctly. That's a list of downgrades. If there's no
hesitation, it's a downgrade. </SPAN><SPAN
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title=rickwallace45@gmail.com href="mailto:rickwallace45@gmail.com">richard
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2009 sequence diagrams are posted onthe NSRCA
site</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Thanks,
all, for the feedback on these presentations - now if I could only FLY
the Masters 09 sequence... !</SPAN><SPAN
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FUEL! (ok.... or electrons, as appropriate...)</SPAN><SPAN
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Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Jon Lowe <<A
href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com">jonlowe@aol.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Rick,<BR>I
want to thank you for posting these. I read thru the Powerpoint
presentation on the Masters sequence last nite, and picked up on two key
points that I had completely missed. I hadn't thought about pulling
early on the start of the hourglass to maintain geometry, and I had
completely missed the fact that there is no hesitation in the two, two of
two rolls opposite. I had been practicing both manuevers incorrectly..
In fact, I would have sworn there WAS a hesitation in the rolls before
I read your presentation and rechecked the rules. Now if the weather
would break so I could get more practice...<BR><BR>Job well
done.<BR></SPAN><SPAN
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Message-----<BR>From: richard wallace <<A
href="mailto:rickwallace45@gmail.com">rickwallace45@gmail.com</A>><BR>To:
General pattern discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>Sent:
Sat, 28 Feb 2009 6:49 am<BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2009
sequence diagrams are posted on the NSRCA
site<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">The
current Masters seequence is posted on the NSCA website (along with all the
other current sequences) at<BR><BR><BR><A
href="http://nsrca.us/judginghome.html">http://nsrca.us/judginghome..html</A><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR>Click
the desired AMA class link in the middle of the page to open or save the
presentation.<BR><BR><BR>-- Each file is 2MB or a little less
-dodwnload may take a few seconds<BR><BR><BR> -- Might as well save it
on your local computer for later
reference..!<BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR>These presentations try to capture
the rulebook downgrades and some helpful tips but, as always, the current
rulebook is the authority!<BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR>Links to FAI P09 and
F09 sequences and call cards are in the listing to the right of the
page.<BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR>Enjoy--!<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN
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