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am on the opposite end of this. I still rely on the abuse and neglect tolerant
NiCad. 30 years ago NiCad's weren't as reliable as they are now but I have yet
to loose an airplane due to battery problem. The bottom line is to know your
equipment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rex<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, February 14, 2009
11:13 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Receiver packs</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I've been using 2 cell
lipo's for quite a few years for my receiver/servo power.&nbsp; I treat them
just like any<br>
other part that goes into a $3k plane...&nbsp; I break them in and test
them&nbsp;in a little foamie plane.&nbsp; I torture <br>
them enough to see that they have the capacity that they should.&nbsp; I
generally fly them five or six cycles <br>
before I actually put them in the pattern ship.&nbsp;&nbsp; I&nbsp;use them for
two seasons, then change them out for <br>
new ones.&nbsp; I haven't had any reliability problems whatsoever, using lipos
in this manner.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
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From: pamrich47@hotmail.com<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:37:42 -0600<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Receiver packs<br>
<br>
Jerry--just a couple thoughts:&nbsp; I will probably never use a battery for a
receiver/flight pack again&nbsp;that I haven't been in charge of its
history.&nbsp; If you've been paying attention to its characteristics since
new, we can generally tell when they start to lose capacity--and for me, there
was a point on the ESV when it got there,&nbsp;I got a little nervous about
going up 'one more time'.&nbsp; When it would approach that&nbsp;point after
about five flights, then I would figure it was 1. if early in its career--then
to cycle and 2. if in to the second or third year(sometimes longer)&nbsp;it was
time to retire it.&nbsp; Nicads for me have been pretty reliable that way and
I've been comfortable running one pack.&nbsp; You can still go to five cells in
nicads for additional capacity and power with a regulator and still have that
reliability.&nbsp; I think most of the guys that have gone to lipos can enjoy
the increased capacity and power along with an increased discharge rate in a
smaller, lighter package.&nbsp; But I don't get the impression that they trust
them like nicads.&nbsp;&nbsp;Probably the best thing to do is monitor your
batteries of any type with a good, loaded ESV to keep an eye out for&nbsp;any
unusual battery behavior.&nbsp; The two battery debate is a little like the
single versus twin debate in full scale airplanes--some guys think twins just
have double the chances to fail.<br>
All that said, I understand some of the new receivers are a little touchy
regarding low voltage situations.&nbsp; I had an older receiver in an airplane
that I bought used with a 'new' battery--turned out the battery was bad--but
got a warning(hold) and was able to land--but showed NO volts afterward. <br>
Chances are with the newer stuff, it may not have&nbsp;made it back on the
ground in one piece.&nbsp; So using a 5 cell nicad or 2 cell lipo with
regulator may not be a bad idea and monitor with a good loaded ESV.<br>
FWIW<br>
Richard<br>
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From: jjvoth@mtelco.net<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:32:46 -0600<br>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thanks
for the info guys</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
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<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
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href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net" title="vicenterc@comcast.net">Vicente
&quot;Vince&quot; Bortone</a> </span></font></div>

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font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> </span></font><font
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Friday, February 13,
2009 8:28 PM</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Receiver packs</span></font><font size=2 color=black
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi
Jerry,<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I have been using two li-po using the tech-aero&nbsp;double regulator <a
href="http://www.tech-aero.net/plr5-dr2.htm">http://www.tech-aero.net/plr5-dr2.htm</a>&nbsp;
The capacity I am using now is 930 mah, 2 cells&nbsp; batteries.&nbsp;&nbsp;I
know that I can fly at least 6-8 times.&nbsp; After that, I am brain dead.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
VB<br>
&nbsp;<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: &quot;Richard Strickland&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:pamrich47@hotmail.com">pamrich47@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: &quot;General pattern discussion&quot; &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:01:03 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Receiver packs<br>
<br>
Jerry, I think the short answer is no.&nbsp; But there has been much discussion
regarding dual packs for back-up.&nbsp; An example ot single pack usage is
using a 2 cell lipo at around 780-800ma for practice and 340-380ma for contests
to make weight.&nbsp; These are used with voltage regulators with variing
outputs.<br>
RS<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&gt; From: jjvoth@mtelco.net<br>
&gt; To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
&gt; Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:32:25 -0600<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Receiver packs<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Sorry, I said that wrong. I meant are two packs needed to power the flight
<br>
&gt; pack.<br>
&gt; ----- Original Message ----- <br>
&gt; From: &quot;Jerry Voth&quot; &lt;jjvoth@mtelco.net&gt;<br>
&gt; To: &quot;NSRCA&quot; &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:23 PM<br>
&gt; Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Receiver packs<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; This has probably come up many times but I'd like to know if it's <br>
&gt; &gt; necessary<br>
&gt; &gt; to use two Li-Fe packs for the radio and servos<br>
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&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
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