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color:#1F497D'>None that I am aware. The process is that IMAC has an Unknown
Sequence committee and they build these fully detailed sequences. They
distribute these to the contest CD’s ahead of time. The CD’s set the program
to intake the unknown scores and K-factors. There has been some evolution on
the scoring programs and they are getting better and better! Tony Fandino for
instance sets a scoring program up, accessible by WIFI, and you can open up
your computer and see all of your scores, averages, per maneuver, all
competitors, etc, as soon as they are input.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony
Romano<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Mandatory Advancment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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What are the logistics of scoring with an Unkown?<br>
<br>
Anthony<br>
<br>
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<br>
> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:44:29 -0500<br>
> From: jim.woodward@baesystems.com<br>
> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Mandatory Advancment<br>
> <br>
> My experience in flying and judging unknowns, locally and at a Nats, is
this:<br>
> <br>
> In order to adequately judge unknowns you should have a scribe and an
aresti-caller. This person is experienced and reads ahead the elements of each
maneuver so you as a judge can stay watching the maneuver and right on queue. <br>
> <br>
> If you put this in practice like we do in the SE IMAC region, judging the
unknowns is not a problem, and rarely more of a problem that typical known
round judging.<br>
> <br>
> However, I disagree with your assessment about experienced pilots being
able to execute an unknown if only the caller is on the ball. Flying unknown
sequences is a skill that is undeveloped in pattern pilots. On paper it looks
simple enough, but in execution, it is totally different animal. I can name
pilots either way that fly so-so knowns, then fly better unknowns, and pilots
that fly GREAT knowns, and lose focus on unknowns.... (the first
"skill" that needs nourishment is the ability to truly listen and fly
exactly what the caller says and when. Memorizing an unknown then flying it, is
not a practice often used with the IMAC guys.)<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Jim<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
rcmaster199@aol.com<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:34 AM<br>
> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Mandatory Advancment<br>
> <br>
> Unknowns are a fair idea. Most of us long timers in the sport have <br>
> flown most maneuvers in the book and could execute an unknown sequence <br>
> reasonably well if we had a caller who was on the ball.<br>
> <br>
> The main problem I see with unknowns is judging them correctly. My <br>
> concern isn't with judges with routinely judge F3A and Masters <br>
> Finals....these folks have a pretty good grasp on judging nuances in <br>
> general, which include unknown sequences (in F3A anyway). BUT can the <br>
> same be said for the everyday folks who attend the contests to fly and <br>
> are also tapped to judge? I'm not so sure.<br>
> <br>
> MattK<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: jtkeiser@comcast.net<br>
> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
> Sent: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:19 am<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Mandatory Advancment<br>
> <br>
> Well, just think Ron, now all your competitors would be doing the same <br>
> - at least for one flight. Doesn't that seem more fair?<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Jack<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Ron Van Putte" &lt;vanputte@cox.net&gt;<br>
> To: "General pattern discussion" <br>
> &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 11:16:19 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada <br>
> Eastern<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Mandatory Advancment<br>
> <br>
> I'm in the Master class and I fly unknowns all the time. Just ask my
<br>
> caller, John Fuqua, and he'll tell you that I rarely know what's next.<br>
> <br>
> Ron VP<br>
> <br>
> On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Vicente=2<br>
> 0Vince Bortone wrote:<br>
> &gt; I also fly AMA pattern and IMAC when there is a contest close to
<br>
> &gt; Kansas City. I wish that I could fly IAC. Yes, it
will be <br>
> &gt; interesting to add unknowns to pattern. In IMAC the class
that <br>
> &gt; does not fly unknowns is basic. All the rest fly unknowns.<br>
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