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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle19><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Eddie, the move to the current advanced isn't extremely difficult but
advanced requires a more capable airplane. Considerably more vertical
performance is needed and flight trimming becomes more critical. Start flying
it about at your home field the season before committing to the move. Within a
few flights you will know if you and / or your equipment are up to the challenge.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Jim Hiller <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>W. Eddie Batchelor<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 03, 2009
6:09 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> jimgrunt@sbcglobal.net;
'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Mandatory Advancement</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Eddie Batchelor here from
D-6<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I can TOTALLY relate to
your story. Here’s mine :<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>First I don’t get to
practice like I need to and I am lucky to get to go to 3 or 4 contests/year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My 1<sup>st</sup> year I
flew 1 contest and did about normal for anyone’s 1<sup>st</sup> one </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The next year I stayed in
Sportsman because I knew I needed to. I did Ok ,but not great, but I did manage
to come in 2<sup>nd</sup> at one contest. I knew the rules required me to move
up BUT the idea of flying Intermediate scared me silly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I worried about it all
winter then decided to go for it. As luck would have it I had a horrible spring
at work and didn’t get a single flight until 1<sup>st</sup> of June. I went to
my First Int contest in June actually feeling like I was gonna be in peoples
way. Everyone there greeted me so warmly that I felt better after getting
there but I was still nervous. I decided to fly and just concentrate on trying
to learn the sequence (and not crash - seriously). Well I was terrible
but each round was easier than the previous one and I didn’t crash or hurt
anyone </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>. Going home I thought back on the weekend. I realized I had
progressed further in those 6 flights than I thought possible considering
I had NOT even flown the sequence before arriving at the contest.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well the next year I
stayed in Int since I’d only been to 2 contests. I got to go to 4 that year and
managed to come in 3<sup>rd</sup> place once. No one said anything to me about
moving up – but then my flying might have made it too obvious I shouldn’t.
LOL<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Now I come to this year
and I am contemplating the move to Advanced. I haven’t flown a flight since
last Sept in fact I don’t even have a plane airworthy at this time, so I have
no idea when I’ll get to start practicing. Now if I decide to stay in
Intermediate one more year I feel like I can be competitive and maybe even win
one or two and I don’t feel threatened to be forced up. Up until I said
this just now. Some people in D-6 may get after me now If I don’t move up
VBG<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Now if you’ve read all
this then bear with me just a little more as I have two points to this :<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.0in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>1.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you really fear the
move to Advanced so much you will not fly maybe you should stay in
Intermediate and I doubt anyone will say different.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.0in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>BUT before
you decide on #1 really give it some honest reflection. What is
YOUR reasons to go. Do you want to improve your flying no matter what place you
end up in or is being “competitive” and in the hunt for 1<sup>st</sup> more
imtportant.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>
My moving up to Intermediate before I was ready taught me more in
the 3 contests I got to attend than all the practice in Sportsman could have
ever done.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you
really want to get better quick, it is possible that flying Advanced may well
do it for you.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you
want to really be on the Top of the competitive edge In your class, gunning for
1<sup>st</sup> every time then stay in Intermediate and enjoy it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It all boils down to what
you want to get out of it. And it has been my experience that either way your
friends will support you. Mine sure have !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Good luck<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Eddie <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jim Gruntkowski<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 03, 2009
4:20 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Mandatory Advancement</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Hello everyone. My name is Jim Gruntkowski
and I'm relatively new to pattern. I flew my first contest in May of 2007 in
sportsman and met a great bunch of people that gave me more help than I can
actually take in at one time. I flew 4 contest that year and was told to move
up to intermediate which was okay because there is more competition in
intermediate. 2008 was a very busy year at work which didn't leave much
time for practice but we went to contest anyhow so I can show my wife
whata fool I can make out of myself. Mostly the reason we went to
contest the 2008 was to get away for a long weekend and spend time with new
friends. I can honestly say that I didn't enjoy myself as much as I should
have due to the fact that I just wasn't ready to compete in intermediate. It
was a little depressing before the last contest I told my wife maybe we
should just skip the last contest because it wouldn't be worth the money for
the travel and hotel and not be competitive. We did go and we had a great
time. Did I mention my wife is my caller. But if someone told me I had to
move up to advance this coming season I would probably take a year off. This
is a hobby and I love it but I also want to be competitive. I have other
hobbies that are competitive and have seen all types of sand baggers but
that's just a part of life. I honestly believe that people know they're
flying abilities and what class they should be flying in and if they stay in
the class just because they know they can win contests then so be it. I will
still go to contest and have fun. If someone told me I had to move to
advanceIwould probably take a year off to practice but that wouldn't help
attendance at local contest would it so it doesn't make sense to me why you
would force someone to move up that doesn't have the ability to fly in the
next class.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
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