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<DIV>I gave up making much $ on selling fuel from the start. I've been watching the fuel prices since last November and I've been out of a few blend of fuels.</DIV>
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<DIV>Price coming down at manufacturer doesn't necessarily means our (dealer or end user) fuel prices will drop anytime soon. Nobody knows what will happen.</DIV>
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<DIV>So far, only two major distributors (GP & Horizon) sells fuels to dealers. Last July, Morgan told me to deal with either of them as they were not doing dealer direct. Horizon increased prices in June, GP in July. I was luck enough or had a best sales rep available to acquire 45 cases of CP30% in July.</DIV>
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<DIV>I don't see any price changes at either distributors especially on CP30H. I actually see higher price than my last July's price right now.</DIV>
<DIV>One reason that I can think of? They already got lots of fuels at higher prices sometime last fall. Unless fuel manufacturers let GP/Horizon to lower the prices and the manufacturers cover the lose if any exists, we don't have better pricing. GP/Horizon won't order fuels until necessary.</DIV>
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<DIV>Dealers won't see any lower prices that have been mentioned here until either of above happens.</DIV>
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<DIV>Byron fuels have lowered a little since December, but they are doing direct dealer only, so the price changes at least two or three times a year. Last year had total of 4 or 5 changes.</DIV>
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<DIV>I don't stock Power Master fuels. Only take order to get them. Personally used a few cans and didn't like it. </DIV>
<DIV>Did you know PM is the only fuel manufacturer selling upto 60% nitro although it is for boat/racing? It is less than $10 more than their 30% Heli LV fuel. </DIV>
<DIV>I don't think nitro % affect the fuel price too much. Why did the fuel price went up? No clue!</DIV>
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<DIV>That said. I don't mind fuel manufacturers selling fuels at large shows. It may do good to those who are closer or who can drive there for fuel.</DIV>
<DIV>However, selling at lower than wholesale or dealer pricing will definitely cause something. It did before and will happen again.</DIV>
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<DIV>If all manufacturers do the above? YES, we can get better pricing!! </DIV>
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<DIV>CDI fuel has not been added to any distributor's list. Horizon doesn't show any CDI info yet. Anyone know if there is other YS engine importer exist?</DIV>
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<DIV>Well, better get back to work.</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Troy Newman <troy@troynewman.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, February 2, 2009 12:00:52 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] YS DZ Fuel<BR></FONT><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Yes the prices are coming back down as well. </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma', 'sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma', 'sans-serif'"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>krishlan fitzsimmons<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 01, 2009 10:51 PM<BR><B>To:</B> General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] YS DZ Fuel</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Troy, <BR><BR>Not saying this from an E perspective, but from someone who is interested in the new Dz's, does this mean that glow prices are going to come back down? I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering. <BR><BR>Thanks!</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 2/1/09, Troy Newman <I><troy@troynewman.net></I></B> wrote:</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">From: Troy Newman <troy@troynewman.net><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] YS DZ Fuel<BR>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 5:18 PM</P><PRE>John,<BR>
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I spoke to Morgan Fuels last week. They are getting nitro</PRE><PRE> again, and<BR>
have been for a little while. Things are about back to normal. I would<BR>
venture to say that is the case for the all fuel companies. <BR>
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How is the 787 doing, you about retired again? I have one of my<BR>
contractors that is doing the Alb to Phx commute and he is about fed up<BR>
with it. Hope you can get some more flying in. I looking forward to<BR>
doing some flying myself.<BR>
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Troy<BR>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John<BR>
Gayer<BR>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:00 PM<BR>
To: General pattern discussion<BR>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] YS DZ Fuel<BR>
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I would like to hear what everyone is doing about the fuel issue for <BR>
running DZ engines this year. Prices, fuel brand, less nitro etc.<BR>
John<BR>
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