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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=031303016-29012009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I originally wanted to ask companies like Great Planes to
please put a flyer in some of their pattern related kits... I still think this
is a good idea. Your idea is worth looking into...</FONT></SPAN><BR></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Charles
Hochhalter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:19 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
General pattern discussion; jpavlick@idseng.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] K-Factor morphed into Grow Pattern<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Has any thought of having the K Factor available to members online
only and that would free up funds to put some in print and send to hobby
shops?</DIV>
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<DIV>Just thinking outloud.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Chuck Hochhalter<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 1/29/09, John Pavlick
<I><jpavlick@idseng.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">From:
John Pavlick <jpavlick@idseng.com><BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion]
K-Factor morphed into Grow Pattern<BR>To: "General pattern discussion"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date: Thursday, January 29,
2009, 3:01 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Jim,</DIV>
<DIV> Interesting observations. In my neck of the woods
(Connecticut) there is almost NO IMAC or Pattern competition
so I don't see any of this. Part of the reason for that is
that it's hard to find large, open areas where you're allowed to
fly model airplanes. Let alone have an organized contest. My state
pretty much sucks in that regard. There sems to be plenty of room
for shopping centers and "retirement communities" however.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Even with these restrictions, I've managed to enlighten a few
people and make them aware of Precision Aerobatics. By this I
mean IMAC AND Pattern. Some people just don't want to fly Pattern,
whereas others simply don't want to fly IMAC. That's fine as far
as I'm concerned but the point is they need to know about them.
That's where I think Patttern and the NSRCA suffers the most.
People simply don't know that we exist. We need to increase our
visibility if we want to attract new members. We DON'T need to
change anything with how we fly, how we judge, etc. At least not
to attract new people. All we need to do is let them know we're
here and that they can fly with us if they want to. No pressure to
join. Just take your basic sport model to a contest and fly a few
rounds in Sportsman. Don't buy a new radio or airplane. Don't
worry about the weight or size. Just show up. If we want to grow
Patttern, that's one of the things that we need to do.
If printed copies of the K-Factor at local hobby shops will help
with that cause (it just might), then send me a box so I can
drop them off. :)</DIV>
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<DIV>John Pavlick</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>BTW - I actually did learn about the NSRCA through the
K-Factor after a club member handed me a copy that he picked up
somewhere. Once I knew that Patttern was still alive in my
area (I had taken a LONG hiatus) I built a new airplane,
started going to contests and joined the NSRCA.</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 1/29/09, Woodward, Jim (US SSA)
<I><jim.woodward@baesystems.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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Woodward, Jim (US SSA)
<jim.woodward@baesystems.com><BR>Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<BR>To:
"General pattern discussion"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date: Thursday,
January 29, 2009, 2:16 PM<BR><BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">JN
– there is more to the comparison of IMAC/Pattern than the
traceable history to the TOC or available ARF scenario. I
think Jay hit on it something important other day stating
something to the effect that, “… if you are not in FAI or
Masters you are left on your own.” (forgive me if it
wasn’t Jay or I misquoted). Pattern and IMAC are totally
different in many ways and being that I’m involved in the
District/Leadership of each, I’ll list a few in no particular
order:</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>1.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Basic,
Sportsman, Intermediate in IMAC: in a 50 person contest,
there are 5 Unlimited, 5 Advanced, and 40 persons spread almost
equally between the lower classes</SPAN>
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<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>2.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Sportsman,
Intermediate, Advanced in Pattern: In a 20 person contest, maybe
3-4 FAI, 7-10 Masters, 8-10 spread between lower classes.</SPAN>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>3.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">R/C
Clubs view holding an IMAC Contest as a money-making
event. Not so sure for the pattern event.</SPAN>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>4.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Not
such a rush to move up in classes in IMAC: IMAC changes
sequences yearly and has unknowns flown each contest, all
classes except for Basic. IMAC classes get harder in a
hurry. For instance the intermediate class will have a 90
degree rolling turn in it and numerous snaps rolls, also a
spin. There is no mercy on unknowns… sometimes they
are more difficult than the normal sequence, sometimes easier,
sometimes just different. There is not an expectation that
all pilots will reach the “destination” class. There is no
destination class in IMAC. </SPAN>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>5.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Piloting
differences? I find the average IMAC pilot is a fairly
high skilled R/C pilot that is learning the precision side of
things. You might watch a OK sequence, but later in the evening
see them throwing it down on the deck in aggressive Freestyle
most of us would dare try. The Pattern guys grow-up
precision and can fly a higher scoring stall turn and have
better sequence-fundamentals (and positioning), but lack in some
of the other R/C roundness.</SPAN>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>6.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The
IMAC ranks have a lot of guys “who used to fly pattern” in
them. I’ve heard it all as to why they stopped flying
pattern and here it is (believe me or not , up to you):</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in" class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>a.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Pattern
is too political at the top</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in" class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>b.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Feeling
of Topped out – it didn’t matter how much I practiced, I
couldn’t improve my scores or beat that one guy</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in" class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>c.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Best
flights aren’t winning rounds</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in" class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>d.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Didn’t
fit in</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in" class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>e.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">These
are opinions range from normal pilots, to “top guys” that only
fly IMAC now</SPAN>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>7.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Flying/Positioning
– I love the pattern way of flying in a box, with a centerpole –
I FREAKIN-HATE the IMAC way of writing sequences with “sort of
left, sort of right” maneuvers. I understand why it is
done and such, but I’d take the box anyday. Flying the box
in pattern is its “own-significant-difficulty” which makes the
less complex maneuvers harder to do. The IMAC way lets
them “load-up” each maneuver into a super-complex deal – very
hard to score well I may add too. However, its all part of
the pie.</SPAN>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>8.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Winning?
In pattern, a win means you flew the sequences the best.
This is cool because often you can “beat” a better pilot, by
flying the maneuver you need to know how to do better than the
other guys. In IMAC, usually the “best” pilots wins,
because it is a combination of flying the known and unknown.
</SPAN>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>9.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Planes?
Pattern planes fly the best, but are harder to fly well.
Pattern planes are less affected by small changes in atmospheric
conditions, or good/bad engine days – IE -- you almost
always have enough power in a pattern plane regardless of
sequence flown. IMAC - totally different.
Humidity (specifically), can DRASTICALLY affect the speed of
your plane. Power requirements change hugely with
sequence/class changes. For instance, unlimited need a
truly unlimited power setup. Not so easy to move up
without changing equipment. A 40% plane is easier to fly
“wings-level”, but the judging penalties are 0.5 point per 5
degrees, instead of 1 point per 15 degrees. </SPAN>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>10.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Organizational
view on Judging – I don’t know what the NSRCA stance is on
judging right now. In IMAC, there is HUGE $$$ spent on
judging programs, seminars, and creating a national standard for
judging. How do they do this? They fly in people
from all around the country for a national-type of judge
certification. These guys then go forth and carry the
message.</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in" class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>a.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Why
do they do this? Because they know that regional
differences and biases, or cheating of any kind, can kill-off an
organization. They put a huge leadership and
organizational priority on getting judging right. – if you
know me – you know I like that. </SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">So,
there are many, many differences between the two.
Personally, I gravitate towards flying the pattern plane.
However, the “competitive” factors in IMAC are solid too and
given the activity around my neck of the woods, you can’t pass
it up. So what’s the point, I guess the point still is
that the total formula is working for IMAC. The
NSRCA formula is not. What can we take from the
differences to tune-up our own game? And regarding the
K-factor – in today’s economy it is hard to justify business
decisions that don’t break even. </SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Jim</SPAN>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma', 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma', 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>J N Hiller<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 28, 2009
8:48 PM<BR><B>To:</B> General pattern
discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic
versus Paper K-Factor Poll</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle52><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">IMAC v/s Pattern is almost an apples to
oranges comparison. IMAC popularity can be traced to the TOC and
the general appeal of large colorful high performance readily
available aircraft but mostly <U>visibility</U>. Pattern flying
is absent from many local clubs but large aerobatic airplanes
are represented nearly everywhere. The big airplanes attract the
press and interests spectators. Pattern by comparison is
extremely repetitious and boring to those not directly involved.
</SPAN></SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle52><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I didn't want to get into this here but
I question how many non-pattern folks would read a free
K-Factor. There is a free sample available there now. Is anybody
finding it? The problem I find is "Pattern" visibility. I
couldn't get Google to find the NSRCA when querying aerobatics,
RC aerobatics or pattern, however IMAC showed up. It's as if
some amount of prior knowledge is needed before an outsider can
gain access to pattern activity. </SPAN></SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle52><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">AMA doesn't do a very good of job
explaining competition events or activity and if you don't know
follow the SIG you are kind of out of luck. How dose an outsider
become aware of and interested in any competition event without
knowing where to look? </SPAN></SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle52><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">As for the K-Factor, the publication is
second to none. I have been receiving them since it was several
folded 11 x 14 sheets from a copy machine. The content has for
the most part remained about the same; mostly contest results
and district news. It's more of a competition newsletter with
content of interest to those involved and of questionable
interest to outsiders or the mildly interested. There is little
seed for growing interest in any rulebook event on the Internet.
It only happens at the local level with people having fun.
</SPAN></SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle52><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To be active competitors in either IMAC
or pattern requires a fair amount of disposable income and time
commitment. We draw from the same shrinking pool of people
willing to commit to a weekend out of town to participate in
what appears to be a very regimented activity flown near the
limit of visibility for many. Bigger really is better and we
(Pattern) is somewhat restricted by trying to remain compatible
with FAI.</SPAN></SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle52><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I have probably gone on too long but I
don't believe our salvation lies in a free K-Factor, not that it
shouldn't be, it just won't draw many to our
sport.</SPAN></SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle52><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sorry Derek, forgive me for splattering
this even more.</SPAN></SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle52><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jim Hiller</SPAN></SPAN>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Troy Newman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:44
PM<BR><B>To:</B> General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor
Poll</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jim,</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">What
is really amazing is locally here in AZ and Sothern California
IMAC contests attract 60-70 pilots.</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">IMAC
membership is up near 1000 members. They have an online only
newsletter. Not even a magazine.</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Why
would it be horrible to emulate an organization that is
successful like that.</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">They
can’t be doing anything right they are just IMACers</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Just
something to think about.</SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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