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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I agree with you Troy. Sometimes it is neccessary
to examine the organization's objectives and the progress towards those
objectives. Producing a high quality glossy publication is expensive. That is
not my only concern. It would seem to me that the treatment of the root classes
(Sportsman-Intermediate-Advanced) are being offerred on a take it or leave it
basis. Some of us "top out" at a lower level. Full membership seems reserved for
those who fly Masters or FAI. Discouraging the less talented flyers will cost
members! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you want to find the true value of the K-Factor
in its present form offer NSRCA membership for $20 and no K-Factor at
all!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John Ferrell W8CCW</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing." -- Edmund Burke<BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=troy@troynewman.net href="mailto:troy@troynewman.net">Troy Newman</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<DIV id=idOWAReplyText46673>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Thank
you for the information Ron</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">This speaks to the
heart of the matter in my mind. From the February numbers the KF cost the
NSRCA $2976.21 On our best month of advertising from Derek's post was
November last year and we had $2100 in ads.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">That means the KF
costs us about $800 a month out of the treasury. Treasury money comes from
NATS, members’ dues and so on.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">So we are paying
approaching 10K a year (800+ a month for 12months) from the NSRCA
general funds to subsidize the KF in its printed
form.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Or to put it in
other terms we can all understand 250 members at $40 a person dues to
subsidize the KF</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">What is our total
membership now aprox 500-600? ½ our membership funds are to fund the KF. This
is in addition to the needed advertising dollars. If those ad dollars fall off
the KF costs us that much more.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I would consider
this a major financial concern for the organization. We all enjoy our printed
copy. However is it really worth this level of cost. As an individual it’s
easy to say well I paid my $40 I want my printed copy. As a group I don’t
think this a financially responsible answer.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">The economy is in
relatively poor shape. All model suppliers (read our advertisers) are
suffering the effects of this crunch. We are so concerned about keeping a
printed copy in place to keep these companies spending their advertising $
with us. ..yet when a advertiser doesn't renew his ad due to the economy
we go further into the membership general funds to keep the KF floating. How
many ads do we need?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">An online only KF
would still make a profit with little to no advertising money. Today we are
spending $2976 for this month. My personal feeling is going all online
would be a benefit to our advertising partners. Making the KF free to all
would increase distribution. Increase NSRCA visibility, and give our
advertising partners more exposure for their dollar spent with us. To me this
is a very win-win situation for all involved.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Personally I can't
see it getting much better. Even if the KF was 100% covered by the ads which
it is not. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">People fear change.
The reality is do we need to lose 1/3 of our current advertising income before
we really see the writing on the wall. Or do we proactively change the way we
are doing things in order to make this system better for members, better for
advertising, and better for the exposure of pattern to the modeling
world.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Better for the
members we will have more money in the bank. Even with zero advertising we
will be 10K ahead each year. That’s if we lost all
advertising.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Better for any
advertisers we do have. The main supporters are going to stay with us. They
will have a larger exposure at a lower cost to them.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Better for pattern
as anybody and everybody can get the KF for free from the Nsrca download
site.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I’m not beating a
dead horse here. I just see the possibilities of thinking ahead, and
developing a better and more current method of communication. Other SIGS are
already doing this.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">They got the same
complaints when they started it, now they would not do it any other way. My
local clubs have done the same thing and have managed to provide better
funding for events, field improvements, and even fun fly events where the club
buys products for prizes instead of donations. I mean they had an event that
spent $2000-3000 on prizes and the entry fee for club members was ZERO for the
fun fly. This was a direct result of saving the postage on the club news
letter. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">By the way the club
news letter is now double the size, all in color and has numerous ads from
local Hobby shop owners. It has been a huge success over the last 2
years.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Troy
Newman</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org on behalf of Ron
Davies<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tue 1/27/2009 10:23 AM<BR><B>To:</B> General pattern
discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper
K-Factor Poll</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Jim and any
interested parties:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">There is not a
contract in place for printing the K-Factor.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Postage and
printing is paid separately. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Postage for the
February 2009 K-Factor is $602.41. The January 2009 cost of the K-Factor
not including postage is $2,373.80. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I will provide you
a cost break out of the K-Factor. Please give me a few days as my main
computer with all the information is in the repair shop.
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Ron
Davies</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">----- Original
Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=jim.woodward@baesystems.com
href="mailto:jim.woodward@baesystems.com">Woodward, Jim (US SSA)</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern
discussion</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Tuesday, January
27, 2009 5:19 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor
Poll<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi
Guys,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Can
someone please repost the K-Factor cost break out? Here are some
questions I have about the publication:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">1.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: #1f497d">
</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Is
there a contract in place for printing the K-Factor (if so, who is the
contract with)?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">2.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: #1f497d">
</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Are
the postage and printing paid for separately, or lumped
together?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">10,000
words were sent to the list regarding whether to go digital or keep the hard
copy, but I didn’t see the information discussing the current cost
structure.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Thanks,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Jim</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Woodward, Jim (US SSA)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 26, 2009 8:10
AM<BR><B>To:</B> General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor
Poll</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">It
costs $2100/month to print and mail out the K-Factor the way we do it
now? What is the primary cost driver, format or
postage?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Thanks,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Jim</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Dennis
Bodary<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>The poll did not include a 50/50 mix. I would'nt
mind a bimonthly K-Factor and could live with an electronic version
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<P class=MsoNormal>Makes me wonder how much advertising might be lost
on a all electronic version. <BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 1/24/09, Derek
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">From: Derek Koopowitz
<derekkoopowitz@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<BR>To: "'General pattern
discussion'" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date:
Saturday, January 24, 2009, 12:19 PM<o:p></o:p></P><PRE>It's a lot easier to allow for a "pull" of the K-Factor versus a<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>"push" of<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>it... Pushing it means that we'd clock up the internet traffic lanes. You<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>will receive a reminder email that it is available. <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Hatton<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:01 AM<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>To: General pattern discussion<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>The electronic copy to download is good, but I would prefer at least a<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>reminder Email when a new one becomes available, and the option to have it<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>attached to the email would be even better.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Jay Marshall wrote:<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> You might want to upgrade your printer Ron. I have a 8 year old HP 970 <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> that prints both sides automatically. The real issue might be cost. <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> What would it cost in ink to print a complete K-Factor in color on my <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> printer vs the cost to have NSRCA print it? I can't carry my desktop<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>to<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>the throne room.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> Jay Marshall<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> -----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> Putte<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:42 AM<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> To: General pattern discussion<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> I like a paper copy, so I'd print it out to take it out to my hobby <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> shop or the "throne room". It is against my Scottish background<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>to <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> just print out a file one side only. I'd like to print both sides of <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> the paper. If we decide to go with an electronic K-Factor only, it <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> would be nice to have the PDF files arranged so, if we had a 6-page K- <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> Factor, we could print out pages 1, 3, and 5, remove the sheets from <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> the printer, flip over the sheets, reinsert the pages in the printer<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> and print out pages 2, 4 and 6 on the back of the respective pages. <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> I know I could do it one page at a time with what we have now, but, <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> with a 32-page K-Factor, that's a lot of shuffling around.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> Ron Van Putte<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> On Jan 24, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Optional when one renews - if we can work out the pricing details on <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> the paper only version.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Joe Lachowski<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:11 AM<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> To: NSRCA Discussion List<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> I guess having the option to choose which way you want it when you <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> renew is out?<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> I read it as an all or nothing kind of thing.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> From: derekkoopowitz@gmail.com<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:41:30 -0800<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> On the NSRCA website - <A href="http://www.nsrca.us">http://www.nsrca.us</A> - there is a poll that <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> we'd like everyone to participate in.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> There are two options on the poll:<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> 1. NSRCA Membership with electronic K-Factor only 2. NSRCA <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Membership with paper K-Factor The board would like to find out the <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> level of interest of everyone (NSRCA members and others) as to <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> whether they would prefer to receive their K-Factor electronically or <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> whether they'd like to receive it as a paper copy (as it is done <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> currently). Pricing on each type of membership is unknown at this <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> time, however, we believe that the electronic only membership would <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> probably result in dues that are less than the paper K-Factor <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> membership.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Please pass this email on to others that may not be connected to this <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> list - you do not have to be an NSRCA member to participate in this <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> poll.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> HotmailR goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. See <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> how.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A><o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A><o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A><o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A><o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A><o:p></o:p></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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