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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well stated Troy.</span></font></p>
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<p><b><i><font size=4 color=navy face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:
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italic'>Jay </span></font></i></b><b><i><font size=4 color=navy
face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";
color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Marshall</span></font></i></b><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Troy Newman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 27, 2009
8:40 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>General pattern
discussion</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thank
you for the information Ron</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>This speaks to the heart of the
matter in my mind. From the February numbers the KF cost the NSRCA
$2976.21 On our best month of advertising from Derek's post was November
last year and we had $2100 in ads.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>That means the KF costs us about
$800 a month out of the treasury. Treasury money comes from NATS,
members’ dues and so on.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>So we are paying approaching
10K a year (800+ a month for 12months) from the NSRCA general funds to
subsidize the KF in its printed form.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Or to put it in other terms we can
all understand 250 members at $40 a person dues to subsidize the KF</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>What is our total membership now
aprox 500-600? ½ our membership funds are to fund the KF. This is in addition
to the needed advertising dollars. If those ad dollars fall off the KF costs us
that much more.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I would consider this a major
financial concern for the organization. We all enjoy our printed copy. However
is it really worth this level of cost. As an individual it’s easy to say
well I paid my $40 I want my printed copy. As a group I don’t think this
a financially responsible answer.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The economy is in relatively poor
shape. All model suppliers (read our advertisers) are suffering the effects of
this crunch. We are so concerned about keeping a printed copy in place to keep
these companies spending their advertising $ with us. ..yet when a advertiser
doesn't renew his ad due to the economy we go further into the membership
general funds to keep the KF floating. How many ads do we need?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>An online only KF would still make a
profit with little to no advertising money. Today we are spending $2976 for
this month. My personal feeling is going all online would be a benefit to
our advertising partners. Making the KF free to all would increase distribution.
Increase NSRCA visibility, and give our advertising partners more exposure for
their dollar spent with us. To me this is a very win-win situation for all
involved.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Personally I can't see it getting
much better. Even if the KF was 100% covered by the ads which it is not. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>People fear change. The reality is
do we need to lose 1/3 of our current advertising income before we really see
the writing on the wall. Or do we proactively change the way we are doing
things in order to make this system better for members, better for advertising,
and better for the exposure of pattern to the modeling world.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Better for the members we will have
more money in the bank. Even with zero advertising we will be 10K ahead each
year. That’s if we lost all advertising.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Better for any advertisers we do
have. The main supporters are going to stay with us. They will have a larger
exposure at a lower cost to them.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Better for pattern as anybody and
everybody can get the KF for free from the Nsrca download site.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I’m not beating a dead horse
here. I just see the possibilities of thinking ahead, and developing a better
and more current method of communication. Other SIGS are already doing this.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>They got the same complaints when
they started it, now they would not do it any other way. My local clubs have
done the same thing and have managed to provide better funding for events,
field improvements, and even fun fly events where the club buys products for
prizes instead of donations. I mean they had an event that spent $2000-3000 on
prizes and the entry fee for club members was ZERO for the fun fly. This was a
direct result of saving the postage on the club news letter. </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>By the way the club news letter is
now double the size, all in color and has numerous ads from local Hobby shop
owners. It has been a huge success over the last 2 years.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Troy Newman</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org on behalf of Ron Davies<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tue 1/27/2009 10:23 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim and any interested parties:</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>There is not a contract in place for
printing the K-Factor.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Postage and printing is paid
separately. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Postage for the February 2009
K-Factor is $602.41. The January 2009 cost of the K-Factor not including
postage is $2,373.80. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I will provide you a cost break out
of the K-Factor. Please give me a few days as my main computer with all
the information is in the repair shop. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ron Davies</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:jim.woodward@baesystems.com" title="jim.woodward@baesystems.com">Woodward,
Jim (US SSA)</a> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Tuesday,
January 27, 2009 5:19 AM</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Hi
Guys,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Can
someone please repost the K-Factor cost break out? Here are some
questions I have about the publication:</span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'>1.</span></font><font size=1 color="#1f497d"><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Is there a contract in place for printing the K-Factor
(if so, who is the contract with)?</span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'>2.</span></font><font size=1 color="#1f497d"><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Are the postage and printing paid for separately, or
lumped together?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>10,000
words were sent to the list regarding whether to go digital or keep the hard
copy, but I didn’t see the information discussing the current cost
structure.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Jim</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Woodward, Jim (US SSA)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 26, 2009
8:10 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll</span></font></p>
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costs $2100/month to print and mail out the K-Factor the way we do it
now? What is the primary cost driver, format or postage?</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,</span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dennis Bodary<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January 25, 2009
9:41 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>The poll did not include a 50/50 mix. I would'nt
mind a bimonthly K-Factor and could live with an electronic version every
other month.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Makes me wonder how much advertising might be lost
on a all electronic version. <br>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sat, 1/24/09, Derek Koopowitz <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><<a href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</a>></span></i></span></b>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: Derek Koopowitz
<derekkoopowitz@gmail.com><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<br>
To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 12:19 PM</span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>It's a lot easier to allow for a "pull" of the K-Factor versus a</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>"push" of</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>it... Pushing it means that we'd clock up the internet traffic lanes. You</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>will receive a reminder email that it is available. </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Hatton</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:01 AM</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: General pattern discussion</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>The electronic copy to download is good, but I would prefer at least a</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>reminder Email when a new one becomes available, and the option to have it</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>attached to the email would be even better.</span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jay Marshall wrote:</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> You might want to upgrade your printer Ron. I have a 8 year old HP 970 </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> that prints both sides automatically. The real issue might be cost. </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> What would it cost in ink to print a complete K-Factor in color on my </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> printer vs the cost to have NSRCA print it? I can't carry my desktop</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>to</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the throne room.</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Jay Marshall</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> -----Original Message-----</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Putte</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:42 AM</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> To: General pattern discussion</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> I like a paper copy, so I'd print it out to take it out to my hobby </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> shop or the "throne room". It is against my Scottish background</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>to </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> just print out a file one side only. I'd like to print both sides of </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> the paper. If we decide to go with an electronic K-Factor only, it </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> would be nice to have the PDF files arranged so, if we had a 6-page K- </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Factor, we could print out pages 1, 3, and 5, remove the sheets from </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> the printer, flip over the sheets, reinsert the pages in the printer</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> and print out pages 2, 4 and 6 on the back of the respective pages. </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> I know I could do it one page at a time with what we have now, but, </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> with a 32-page K-Factor, that's a lot of shuffling around.</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Ron Van Putte</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> On Jan 24, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Optional when one renews - if we can work out the pricing details on </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> the paper only version.</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Joe Lachowski</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:11 AM</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> To: NSRCA Discussion List</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> I guess having the option to choose which way you want it when you </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> renew is out?</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> I read it as an all or nothing kind of thing.</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> From: derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:41:30 -0800</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> On the NSRCA website - <a
href="http://www.nsrca.us">http://www.nsrca.us</a> - there is a poll that </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> we'd like everyone to participate in.</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> There are two options on the poll:</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> 1. NSRCA Membership with electronic K-Factor only 2. NSRCA </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Membership with paper K-Factor The board would like to find out the </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> level of interest of everyone (NSRCA members and others) as to </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> whether they would prefer to receive their K-Factor electronically or </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> whether they'd like to receive it as a paper copy (as it is done </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> currently). Pricing on each type of membership is unknown at this </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> time, however, we believe that the electronic only membership would </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> probably result in dues that are less than the paper K-Factor </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> membership.</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Please pass this email on to others that may not be connected to this </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> list - you do not have to be an NSRCA member to participate in this </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> poll.</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> HotmailR goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. See </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> how.</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> _______________________________________________</span></font></pre><pre><font
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