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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=391463406-25012009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I think some people are missing the point. We are not
proposing to go with an online only option - people will have a choice. If
you choose paper - then you'll still get paper. If you want online only
then you'll get online only. It's not an either/or situation. Our
publisher will continue to produce the K-Factor for us... albeit at a
potentially different rate if fewer choose paper, but that option still
remains.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ryan
Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com; 'General pattern discussion'<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor
Poll<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I apologize if it’s
already been covered, I read <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Troy</st1:place></st1:City>’s post and skimmed the others to make sure
that it didn’t pop out at me.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Where are we going to
get the money for someone to format the electronic K-Factor? Would that even be
a concern? I assume that there could be a plug-and-play format to the magazine
that maybe Chris or whomever just adds the content in the appropriate areas and
bypass a publisher. Does the formatting come from the publisher currently? Isn’t
that where most of the cost is? Unless we can internalize the magazine’s
production with the transition to online only, we could really save. Would that
be feasible?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I like the paper
K-Factor better, as it’s a little more portable say for traveling. I think that
it’s a little more “user friendly” in the fact that it’s easier to read, unless
of course it’s to be reformatted from the online version we have now. We can
still give out printed back issues to anyone at a contest or at a trade show or
something to show what the magazine content is, and hopefully generate some
interest with new people if the concern is to generate a wider audience. If most
of the cost is in the setup, and not the production, why not print a little
higher percentage over what we get now, and send the extras to the VP’s,
and AVP’s to distribute at hobby shops or to people at their fields or new
Sportsman pilots.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I don’t see an
all-electronic version necessarily a bad thing, I just don’t see it as the holy
grail that I perceive some have lauded it to be.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Kindest
Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ryan
Smith<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>krishlan
fitzsimmons<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday,
January 24, 2009 11:40 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
General pattern discussion<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic
versus Paper K-Factor Poll</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">While <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Troy</st1:place></st1:City> makes some good points, there is
alot of research to be done. <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Troy</st1:place></st1:City> is incorrect IMO on that we are
limited on pages. I haven't ran into this problem in 2 years of editing.
We are limited on people submitting info to me. I put everything I can get
into the Kfactor.<BR><BR>As for advertisers staying with us, I'm not so
sure they would stay with an online only magazine. Look at Imac.. They
have two ad's on theirs and they are bigger than us. <BR><BR>I don't feel
people will join the Nsrca because they like what they read. I think most
of us pay because we support pattern. Heck, the only reason I feel I pay
my AMA dues are for the magazine. I don't want that online..
<BR><BR>Sacred cow eh? lol.. <BR><BR><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Troy</st1:place></st1:City>, yes, this is a business. But we're
not selling products here. We are a group of individuals that fly planes.
Online is good, yes. I agree. Paper is good too. How much in paper and ink
will it take to print out your copy of the Kfactor so you can take it to
the bathroom? My ink gets me probably 300 pages tops. At $60 per ink set.
30 pages per Kfactor x 12 months, 360 pages. Probably about $70 worth of
ink. Hmmmm. I'll support a dues increase first.. <BR><BR>I like paper
first and online, but I would like to propose that we make our online
magazine downloadable for a small fee to non members, and also make all
our advertisers ads clickable in the online version. And also offer them a
pay per click advertising spot on the website. <BR><BR>Don't get me wrong
folks. I think this discussion is great, as it was at the AMA show a few
weeks back. I will be more than happy to support whatever. But it's hard
enough to get any articles or pics as it is to make the Kfactor enjoyable.
How many articles and pics will you submit when its only online? I think
this will kill the KFactor. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR>--- On <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sat, 1/24/09, <st1:place
w:st="on">Troy</st1:place> Newman <I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><troy@troynewman.net></SPAN></I></SPAN></B>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">From: <st1:place
w:st="on">Troy</st1:place> Newman <troy@troynewman.net><BR>Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<BR>To:
"General pattern discussion" <<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</st1:PersonName>><BR>Date:
Saturday, January 24, 2009, 6:35 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hey
guys,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This is a
little long. Please read it’s important to the
NSRCA.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I would like
to say something regarding the printed KF vs. a online only
KF</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Today the KF
is costing the organization a ton of money every month. I spoke to Derek
about this at the AMA show a few weeks ago. Today the KF is running us
about $2100 a month for just round numbers. Most folks don’t know this or
understand the huge cost involved every month. We are funding it from dues
and NATS money when advertising comes up short. John Konneker is
struggling to sell advertising and doing a great job….but we already owe
our check to the company store.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">We are
bringing in advertising money that is short of that number, Let’s call it
1700 or 1800 a month typical for the last few years. Now I know John K has
been working very hard to increase advertising money. The problem is even
its breaking even…..is it really worth it to you to have it in your mail
box? AT $2100 a month to the group?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Look at it
this way. Re-structure the KF to a new layout. An online magazine. The
advertisers are not going to like the idea at first…but here is the what I
think would work.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">#1 tell all
the advertisers. Today is a new day. We are going to give you free
ads for 2 months at your current ad level. And we are going online
only.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">#2 make all KF
downloads free to the public. Absolutely free in every respect. But put a
counter on the downloads. Get the modeling public looking at what we have
to offer.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">#3 at the end
of 2 months….take the counter numbers to the advertisers and say look…we
were producing 800 copies a month. Now it’s downloaded 2000copies a month.
You just doubled your exposure.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">#4 Oh by the
way Mr. Advertiser, we understand the economy is tough on you too. Let’s
do this. We want you to stay with us advertising and since it’s a web only
magazine, we are going to cut your ad rates in ½. You get the same number
of pages for the ½ the money…..would you like to double your ad space for
the same $$ you were paying? This makes the online only magazine
larger…more prestige, more info for the public to see and like. Today we
are limited on content…we can only afford so many pages. Online there is
no limit essentially. At least not the budgetary limit we currently
have.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Now let’s look
at what this will do. John Konneker is selling $2000 a month in ads for
just round numbers. It’s close to this from the info I have been told.
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">$2000 a month
is $24,000 a year. We are using that to pay the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> mail,
and printer company. That’s 24K a year guys!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Now let’s go
to online and ½ the rates….more circulation as its free to all that want
to get it. We get to take $12,000 a year and put in our pockets to
support and grow pattern. What can you do to grow pattern if you
have money in the bank? Can we give more to the USA Team. Can we hold
invitational contests like the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Tucson</st1:place></st1:City> shootout and give cash prizes
in all classes or buy products to give away to pilots. Could we
completely fund the NATS banquet?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The advertiser
people want more exposure…so we give it away for free after all the more
that download it the better it is to sell ads right? Then we
get new members by showing them we are friendly and open folks that want
them to come play with us. We get them to join our organization because we
support pattern not because we make a magazine. Telling them to join
to get the news letter is like saying we have a club but you gotta pay to
play. They will be helping to pay by downloading it. Oh and download often
they will. People want this information…..when they like what they
see they will join the organization. If you hold it as a sacred cow then
they don’t want to play in that environment. Elitism: remember the stereo
type we all know it’s not true or is it….You have to pay to play: is this
elite? Just a question there not slamming the argument…just pointing out
what we have been doing in the past. I think it’s time for a
change.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Oh and by the
way back to John Konnecker’s job on those months when advertising is low
meaning not breaking even on the printing costs we currently have…Guess
what we are using MEMBERS DUES and NATS funds to pay the printer company
and the US mail. On the new system low month for ads is just that, a
low month and it’s still profit mostly profit…Today we go in the hole on
the KF and make up the difference. Would it be neat to say well we only
made $5K in advertising last year but we put 4K of that in our
pockets. Instead it we brought in 24K in ads, and spent all of it
plus another 2-3-4K out of the NSRCA treasury to pay for a printed
KF.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This new idea
allows us to have money to advertise ourselves hold events and promote
pattern and get new members. The idea of paying to get the KF is not
attracting new members….the members we have are footing the bill to pay
the printer on those months that the KF advertising comes up
short.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This is common
sense guys…run this like a business and it can grow and expand. Live pay
check to pay check like we are….. and we are always struggling to stay
afloat.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Is the KF in
its current form worth $2100 a month to you? Yes a small setup fee would
need to be charged to layout the Online version…so Online doesn’t mean
free setup…just free printing and
distribution.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Look Al Gore
invented the internet…lets think like business people and use it to spread
the word. The <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> mail is not going to go
belly up, the price of stamps will just increase and so will our costs to
print and mail each and every member a copy.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Please keep
this information in mind when you vote in the
poll</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">My two cents
on the subject. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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