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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Note: send this twice because of the file size limitation,
original message that included both Pic’s got ”held”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I ordered a set of carbon fiber gear from AirBorne Models (</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Carbon
Fiber Landing Gear PR8200158 6 x 35 x 220 mm)</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> and was waiting till I
received them before responding to this thread. Just got them and they don’t
look bad (pics attached). Overall they are about 15mm shorter, 20mm narrower
(track)and 10mm more sweep than Bolly Longs. The base is almost identical (when
you split the Bolly), 50mm x 38mm. Weight is 120g total, also identical to the
Bolly Longs. The finish is excellent. They seem pretty stiff but have some
flex, more that the Bolly’s. It’ll be awhile till I have them installed and get
a chance to fly with them (gotta paint yet).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Now the really good news, $50 + $7 shipping. Here’s the link <a
href="http://www.airborne-models.com/html/AccessoriesGroup.asp?AGroupID=9">http://www.airborne-models.com/html/AccessoriesGroup.asp?AGroupID=9</a>
, it’s the split gear , Col 1, Row 3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Gene Maurice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Plano, TX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>AMA 3408 NSRCA 877<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>PACSS.sgmservice.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:gene.maurice@sgmservice.com">gene.maurice@sgmservice.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Verne
Koester<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Ed,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>How do you go
about seeing the specs and purchasing those gear? Their web site is a bit
confusing, even when translated.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Verne Koester</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com"
title="ed_alt@hotmail.com">Ed Alt</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Thursday, January
15, 2009 8:18 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>IMO,
the CF landing to emulate is what Wistmodel makes. Try to top them for
light weight, strength, flexibility and ability to absorb shock and not tear
your airplane apart. They look great too. Bolly's are nice, but don't
hold a candle to what Wistmodel produces for the Prestige.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:gfowler@raytheon.com"
title="gfowler@raytheon.com">Gray E Fowler</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Thursday, January
15, 2009 5:56 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Anthony</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>What did you
think about the ES gear twist? That is the wheel going toe in- toe out hitting
small bumps. ES had nothing but zero degree fibers. That is the one design
issue I am conteplating at the moment. </span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Also
considering that all new planes are widebody that is what needs to be
addressed..BUT having a 1 continuous gear will be more weight. I am thinking it
is better to split the gear for a weight savings. If we make two pieces,
and either piece can be a left or a right, then a broken gear is only on one
side. Any advantage to that?<br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>
<br>
<br>
Gray Fowler<br>
Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<br>
Radomes and Specialty Apertures<br>
Technical Staff Composites Engineering<br>
Raytheon</span> <br>
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Romano <anthonyr105@hotmail.com></span></b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
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<span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent by:
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>01/15/2009
04:18 PM</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Graph Tech is
not for us. I am sure their stuff is well suited for the IMAC style planes that
they are designed for but too heavy and way too stiff for our use. <br>
I went through their website and picked a gear based on dimension of the ES 2+
ounces heavier and twice as thick with zero flex. Broke the gear out of my
Black Magic many times when hitting small holes in the runway. Rick donated his
ES gear and life has been much better. <br>
<br>
Anthony<br>
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From: jlachow@hotmail.com<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:59:26 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business<br>
<br>
Anyone have any luck with the Graph Tech RC stuff? Only experience was
with some smaller electrics that worked just fine. They have carbon pants and
spinners, as well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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From: tony@radiosouthrc.com<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:00:23 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business<br>
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</span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Thanks,
Jim. Those are $112.00 I think… about double that of the Bolly…. Not sure
how that will go….. but if there are no other choices…</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Tony
Stillman, President</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Radio
South, Inc.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>139
Altama Connector, Box 322</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Brunswick,
GA 31525</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>1-800-962-7802</span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>www.radiosouthrc.com</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Woodward,
Jim (US SSA)<b><br>
Sent:</b> Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:52 PM<b><br>
To:</b> General pattern discussion<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Tony,</span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'> </span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Luiz
at Net Box Hobby carrys the CA carbon gear.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'> </span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Thanks,</span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Jim</span>
<br>
<b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony<b><br>
Sent:</b> Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:36 PM<b><br>
To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<b><br>
Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I just received
conformation that BOLLY has gone out of business. Unfortunately, this is
a major supplier of CF landing gear and wheel pants. I have been awaiting
a shipment of several items, and now it does not look like that will happen.
I am working now to determine if there are any gear/wheel pants
available. </span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The really bad
thing is that I am not sure what options we have left, other than going with a
kit/arf manufacturer’s gear. Ed Skorpa dropped his gear last year…</span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tony Stillman,
President</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Radio South,
Inc.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>139 Altama
Connector, Box 322</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Brunswick, GA
31525</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1-800-962-7802</span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.radiosouthrc.com</span>
<br>
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