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<DIV>John Pavlick<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 1/16/09, Gray E Fowler <I><gfowler@raytheon.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV id=yiv1823149647><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>John</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>We can easily make sure there is enough mounting suface area. Please define your opinion of "enough". I am thinking 1 inch wide by 2 inches per side or so.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Twist can be reduced. Current designs do not address twist issues at all. Anytime there is nothing but unidirectional zero degree fibers twist will occur.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radomes and Specialty Apertures<BR>Technical Staff Composites Engineering<BR>Raytheon</FONT> <BR><BR><BR>
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<TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gray,</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2> Good ideas. Some thoughts:</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, splitting them isn't so much the problem. Two-piece gear is plenty strong but there does need to be a reasonable amount of surface area there. Some of the Bolly gear gives you very little to work with.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some designs still need the swept gear so that may complicate things.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>The twisting is annoying. If there is a way to reduce that while still providing some flex to absorb the shock of landing then that would be great.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>While we're on the subject of landing gear - what is the best mounting bolt pattern? I've seen quite a few different arrangements.What works and what
doesn't?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Pavlick</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>----- Original Message ----- </FONT><BR><FONT size=3><B>From:</B> </FONT><A href="mailto:gfowler@raytheon.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT color=blue size=3><U>Gray E Fowler</U></FONT></A><FONT size=3> </FONT><BR><FONT size=3><B>To:</B> </FONT><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT color=blue size=3><U>General pattern discussion</U></FONT></A><FONT size=3> </FONT><BR><FONT size=3><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:56 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Anthony</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>What did you think about the ES gear twist? That is the wheel going toe in- toe out hitting small bumps. ES had nothing but zero degree
fibers. That is the one design issue I am conteplating at the moment. </FONT><FONT size=3><BR></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Also considering that all new planes are widebody that is what needs to be addressed..BUT having a 1 continuous gear will be more weight. I am thinking it is better to split the gear for a weight savings. If we make two pieces, and either piece can be a left or a right, then a broken gear is only on one side. Any advantage to that?</FONT><FONT size=3><BR></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radomes and Specialty Apertures<BR>Technical Staff Composites Engineering<BR>Raytheon</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR><BR></FONT>
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<FONT face=Verdana size=2><BR>From: jlachow@hotmail.com<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:59:26 -0500<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business<BR><BR>Anyone have any luck with the Graph Tech RC stuff? Only experience was with some smaller electrics that worked just fine. They have carbon pants and spinners, as well.<BR></FONT><FONT size=3><BR></FONT>
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<FONT face=Verdana size=2><BR>From: tony@radiosouthrc.com<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:00:23 -0500<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business<BR></FONT><FONT size=3><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2><BR>Thanks, Jim. Those are $112.00 I think… about double that of the Bolly…. Not sure how that will go….. but if there are no other choices…</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2><BR>Tony Stillman, President</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2><BR>Radio South, Inc.</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2><BR>139 Altama Connector, Box 322</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2><BR>Brunswick, GA 31525</FONT><FONT size=3>
</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2><BR>1-800-962-7802</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2><BR>www.radiosouthrc.com</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B><BR>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Woodward, Jim (US SSA)<B><BR>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:52 PM<B><BR>To:</B> General pattern discussion<B><BR>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#004080 size=2><BR>Tony,</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#004080 size=2><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#004080 size=2><BR>Luiz at Net Box Hobby carrys the CA carbon gear.</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#004080 size=2><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#004080 size=2><BR>Thanks,</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#004080 size=2><BR>Jim</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><B><BR>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tony<B><BR>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:36 PM<B><BR>To:</B> 'General pattern discussion'<B><BR>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>I just received conformation that BOLLY has gone out of business. Unfortunately, this is a major supplier of CF landing gear and wheel pants. I have been awaiting a shipment of several items, and now it does not look like that will happen. I am working now to determine if there are any gear/wheel pants available. </FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>The really bad thing is that I am not sure what options we have left, other than going
with a kit/arf manufacturer’s gear. Ed Skorpa dropped his gear last year…</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Tony Stillman, President</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Radio South, Inc.</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>139 Altama Connector, Box 322</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Brunswick, GA 31525</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>1-800-962-7802</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>www.radiosouthrc.com</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT>
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