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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A href="http://www.stefanv.com/electronics/sanyo_eneloop.html">http://www.stefanv.com/electronics/sanyo_eneloop.html</A></P><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Jay Marshall" <lightfoot@sc.rr.com><BR>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:06:14 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sanyo Eneloop Batteries<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Found some more info:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SANYO's next-generation nickel metal hydride battery ‘eneloop’ 4pk AA NiMh 2000 mah batteries.<BR><BR>Batteries have a property to release the stored energy in small amounts (this phenomenon is called ‘self-discharge’). This property is particularly noticeable in rechargeable batteries such as Nickel Metal Hydride Batteries etc. as compared to dry cell batteries, hence disabling rechargeable batteries from becoming batteries that ‘customers can use immediately after purchase’. For this reason, rechargeable batteries couldn’t be used unless charged after purchase and so lagged behind dry cells in convenience. This new product’s main property is that it has introduced great improvements in self-discharge properties (residual ratio after one year of non use is 85%*4, in temperature conditions of 20 degree Celsius according to SANYO research). Through this breakthrough development, SANYO has realized a rechargeable battery that can challenge dry cell batteries in user-friendliness through features such as making possible use immediately after purchase or once charged, its ability to be used anytime.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Symbol color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Immediately usable new rechargeable battery </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Symbol color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Sanyo Eneloop Batteries can replace alkaline batteries for all your needs and can be used in any application where AA batteries are needed. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Symbol color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> No Memory Effect - Recharge at any time. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Symbol color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> An Environmentally-friendly product right from the battery to the packaging </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Symbol color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Can be charged up to a 1000 times. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Symbol color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Economically more efficient than dry cell batteries, ‘eneloop’ can be used 1000*1 times over. Also, no need to worry about memory effect . </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Symbol color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> eneloop is a state of the art Ni-MH battery which can be charged like any other Ni-MH battery. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Symbol color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Can be charged by using any good quality NiMH Battery </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Symbol color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Dimensions: 14.35 mm (diameter) X 50.4 mm (height) </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Symbol color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Warranty: 1 Year by Sanyo </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#666666 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #666666; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This says that chargers are not an issue. The weight is OK but the charged voltage seems to be 1.1 V (?). A bit low. Also, with an internal impedance of 25 ohms I would have serious reservations with digital servos.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><B><I><FONT face="Brush Script MT" color=navy size=4><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Brush Script MT'">Jay </SPAN></FONT></I></B><B><I><FONT face="Brush Script MT" color=navy size=4><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Brush Script MT'">Marshall</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> [mailto:</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>vicenterc@comcast.net<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:35 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">General pattern discussion</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sanyo Eneloop Batteries</SPAN></FONT></P>
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