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<DIV>I wasn't interested in pattern at all, until I saw Dick Hanson's Excell at
a meet. The owner said "it's supposed to be an Extra 300, if you can get
past an Extra with retractable gear."</DIV>
<DIV>I felt that, if it was possible to fly such a good looking airplane in
pattern and do well, (and it was, in fact, possible to do so) then I could take
an interest. I have always preferred airplanes that look like
airplanes,and not like an Irish Battle Club. </DIV>
<DIV>Dave Guerin put it very succinctly one time when he said: "the
pattern flyers of today have no idea just how much they owe Dick Hanson."
And, if Dave says it....................... Bill Glaze</DIV>
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<A title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:09
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Breakthrough Pattern plane designs</DIV>
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<DIV>Some planes were breakthroughs just because they broke the mold. I
would put the Astro Hog in that category. Most others took advantage in
advancements in technology. I would put the Bootlegger in that category
(tuned pipe internal instead of hanging outside). </DIV>
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<DIV>One plane that has already been mentioned is the Mach I. This
advanced pattern into the ballistic age. The thin wing and really
streamlined fuselage.... beautiful.</DIV>
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<DIV>Someone already mentioned the Focus. What was breakthrough about
that was not the design per se, but the fact that it was an affordable
ARF that could be built easily yet could (and did) win the NATS. Up
until then, you had to pay an arm and a leg for a plane that probably
required a LOT of work to be competitive.</DIV>
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<DIV>Elements of technology that changed pattern: Digital proportional
radios; Retracts; Schneurle ported engines; Tuned pipes; Four-strokes
(ok, that was a rule thing, but still...). Lipo batteries made electric
pattern not only possible, but competitive.</DIV>
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<DIV>I think the biggest changes (won't really call it 'breakthrough')
have been the rules. Pattern planes could have been larger than
they were had it not been for the limit in engine size. The story I
heard was that Duke Fox designed the .78 for pattern, but then they came
up with a rule to limit the engine size to .61. Then the rule to allow
up to 1.20 four-strokes due to the 'power disparity'. (???) Then came
turnaround, and the designs were forced to change. Then the unlimited
engine size. I've always said that a lot of manufacturers shy away from
pattern since it has always been a moving target. </DIV>
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<DIV>I have to think back to Tom Miller's "Reaction" design. It did not
have much impact on the sport, probably because it was too far
ahead of its time. Back when guys were still flying ballistic planes
with 2 strokes, tuned pipes and retracts, here he comes with a fixed
gear, taildragger, fat fuselage (relative to the times), four-stroke
plane and said "this is where we are headed". Give that man a
prize!!!</DIV>
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<DIV>And the beat goes on....</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 12/15/08, Woodward, Jim (US SSA)
<I><jim.woodward@baesystems.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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Woodward, Jim (US SSA) <jim.woodward@baesystems.com><BR>Subject:
[NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs<BR>To: "General
pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date:
Monday, December 15, 2008, 2:23 PM<BR><BR>
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do you think were some of the most breakthrough or pivotal pattern
designs? When I started there the Prophecy was top dog. A
couple years later the Smaragd was designed. I see a lot of
planes have been designed off the Smaragd platform. I think the
PassPort is a heck of a plane.</SPAN>
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do you guys think have been some break-out designs over the years that
have transformed pattern aircraft design? In the last nine
years, I¢d say the Smaragd was the most transformational plane.</SPAN>
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