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Guys:<br>
I kind of doubt it was simply a breach of their external credit card
processor, and here's why. On Monday, I received a small print order
(less than $6) from an online printing company. The small box had my
name and address correctly on it and it was from a company that had 3
of the fraudulent charges on my credit card. I did not order this
stuff of course, but the thieves clearly had not only my valid credit
card number and expiration date as a processing company might have, but
had my correct name and address to go with it. One of the online
forums had a posting from a guy who said they had enough info on him to
get this bank to release the pin# for his card to THEM and subsequently
took out $400 in cash advances. So unless the credit card processors
need the name and address data too in order to process the charges (I
know for a fact they did not need this data years ago), I think it was
the FMA internal server that was hacked, or an inside job from an
employee or ex-employee - which I think is most likely. <br>
<br>
Chris<br>
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Pete Cosky wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">That's the truth. A lock only keeps
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">From what I gathered it wasn't FMA
that was compromised, it was their payment processor, which begs the
question how many other businesses are impacted by this breach.</font></div>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" title="astafford@swtexas.net"
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<div
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern
discussion'</a> </div>
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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:29 PM</div>
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">The security
symbol would not have helped here. I’m sure FMA has a fairly secure
site. Their database was what was compromised. Technology improves
daily for this type of fraud…but so do the people doing it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">From:</span></font></b><font
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>MATT LIPRIE<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday,
November 20, 2008 4:53 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mups1953@yahoo.com</a>; General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em><i><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">That is why I am so leary of using a credit
card somewhere like that. Plus I do always check if the website has a
little security symbol on the bottom of the page.</span></font></i></em><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mike mueller</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern
discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Sent:</span></font></b><font
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> Wednesday, November 19,
2008 7:52 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
FMA Database Compromised<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt;"> Bingo, that explains it. Good catch!<br>
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--- On <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Tue, 11/18/08, MKMSG <i><span
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MKMSG <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mkmsg@cox.net">mkmsg@cox.net</a>><br>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised<br>
To: "NSRCA Discussion List" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 11:14 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">If any of you have
recently bought products on line from FMA Direct using a credit card,
check your credit card account. FMA's database has been
compromised/hacked and whoever has the information is making charges
against the credit cards. I read this in the electric forum on
Ezonemag.com. Sure enough, when I brought up my VISA account, there
was a NAPSTER charge there so I cancelled the card. You might want to
check yours if you've done business on line with FMA recently.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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