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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A lot of companies now are requiring the
full billing address now for verification, not just the zip code as it used to
be. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:windowtext'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Chris Moon<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 20, 2008
7:03 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
FMA Database Compromised</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Guys:<br>
I kind of doubt it was simply a breach of their external credit card processor,
and here's why. On Monday, I received a small print order (less than $6)
from an online printing company. The small box had my name and address
correctly on it and it was from a company that had 3 of the fraudulent charges
on my credit card. I did not order this stuff of course, but the thieves
clearly had not only my valid credit card number and expiration date as a
processing company might have, but had my correct name and address to go with
it. One of the online forums had a posting from a guy who said they had
enough info on him to get this bank to release the pin# for his card to THEM
and subsequently took out $400 in cash advances. So unless the credit
card processors need the name and address data too in order to process the
charges (I know for a fact they did not need this data years ago), I think it
was the FMA internal server that was hacked, or an inside job from an employee
or ex-employee - which I think is most likely. <br>
<br>
Chris<br>
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Pete Cosky wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>From what I gathered it wasn't FMA that was
compromised, it was their payment processor, which begs the question how many
other businesses are impacted by this breach.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:astafford@swtexas.net" title="astafford@swtexas.net"
moz-do-not-send=true>Archie Stafford</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" moz-do-not-send=true>'General pattern
discussion'</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday,
November 19, 2008 7:29 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Matt,<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The security symbol would not have helped
here. I’m sure FMA has a fairly secure site. Their database
was what was compromised. Technology improves daily for this type of
fraud…but so do the people doing it. <u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" moz-do-not-send=true>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>MATT LIPRIE<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 20, 2008
4:53 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mups1953@yahoo.com</a>; General pattern
discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
FMA Database Compromised</span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><i><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>That is why I am so leary of using a credit card
somewhere like that. Plus I do always check if the website has a
little security symbol on the bottom of the page.</span></font></i></em><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com" title="mups1953@yahoo.com"
moz-do-not-send=true>mike mueller</a> <u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" moz-do-not-send=true>General pattern
discussion</a> <u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday,
November 19, 2008 7:52 AM<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
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[NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> Bingo, that explains it. Good catch!<br>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Tue, 11/18/08, MKMSG <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><<a href="mailto:mkmsg@cox.net"
moz-do-not-send=true>mkmsg@cox.net</a>></span></i></span></b> wrote:<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: MKMSG <<a
href="mailto:mkmsg@cox.net" moz-do-not-send=true>mkmsg@cox.net</a>><br>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised<br>
To: "NSRCA Discussion List" <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" moz-do-not-send=true>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 11:14 PM<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If any of you have recently bought
products on line from FMA Direct using a credit card, check your credit card
account. FMA's database has been compromised/hacked and whoever has the
information is making charges against the credit cards. I read this in
the electric forum on Ezonemag.com. Sure enough, when I
brought up my VISA account, there was a NAPSTER charge there so I cancelled
the card. You might want to check yours if you've done business on line
with FMA recently.</span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Mike</span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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