Pete - Medeco with Magnesium plate will stop you from using that torch! hehehe!! But then you could wear a fire suit....hummm the plot thickens! (the magnesium will spew white hot balls of fire all over.)<br><br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><VBG> Maybe not, but I have used a cutting torch.</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:06 AM</div>
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<div><br></div>Pete - It's clear that you haven't used a Medeco lock! :-)<br><br>Mike Robinson, President<br>A1 Lock & Security<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Pete Cosky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pcosky@comcast.net" target="_blank">pcosky@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">From what I gathered it wasn't FMA that was compromised, it was their payment processor, which begs the question how many other businesses are impacted by this breach.</font></div>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The security symbol would not have helped here. I'm sure FMA has a fairly secure site. Their database was what was compromised. Technology improves daily for this type of fraud…but so do the people doing it. </span></font></p>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:53 AM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mups1953@yahoo.com</a>; General pattern discussion<br>
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<p><i><i><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">That is why I am so leary of using a credit card somewhere like that. Plus I do always check if the website has a little security symbol on the bottom of the page.</span></font></i></i></p>
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<p><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:52 AM</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> Bingo, that explains it. Good catch!<br><br>--- On <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Tue, 11/18/08, MKMSG <i><span style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><<a href="mailto:mkmsg@cox.net" target="_blank">mkmsg@cox.net</a>></span></i></span></b> wrote:</span></font></p>
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To: "NSRCA Discussion List" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 11:14 PM</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If any of you have recently bought products on line from FMA Direct using a credit card, check your credit card account. FMA's database has been compromised/hacked and whoever has the information is making charges against the credit cards. I read this in the electric forum on Ezonemag.com. Sure enough, when I brought up my VISA account, there was a NAPSTER charge there so I cancelled the card. You might want to check yours if you've done business on line with FMA recently.</span></font></p>
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