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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You'd be amazed what information someone with
the proper connections can get their hands on. Usually the name on the card and
the billing zip code are required to process a credit card
transaction, and they're probably stored together. If I have someone's name and
know where they live, I can get an address, phone number, SSN, names of
neighbors, relatives, where they work, all kinds of fun stuff. Then again, I
work for the government, I guess that's kinda cheating. Then again, these types
of people don't really let illegal searches stop them either.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Matt</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=cjm767driver@hotmail.com href="mailto:cjm767driver@hotmail.com">Chris
Moon</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA
Database Compromised</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Guys:<BR>I kind of doubt it was simply a breach of their
external credit card processor, and here's why. On Monday, I received a
small print order (less than $6) from an online printing company. The
small box had my name and address correctly on it and it was from a company
that had 3 of the fraudulent charges on my credit card. I did not order
this stuff of course, but the thieves clearly had not only my valid credit
card number and expiration date as a processing company might have, but had my
correct name and address to go with it. One of the online forums had a
posting from a guy who said they had enough info on him to get this bank to
release the pin# for his card to THEM and subsequently took out $400 in cash
advances. So unless the credit card processors need the name and address
data too in order to process the charges (I know for a fact they did not need
this data years ago), I think it was the FMA internal server that was hacked,
or an inside job from an employee or ex-employee - which I think is most
likely. <BR><BR>Chris<BR><BR>Pete Cosky wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That's the truth. A lock only keeps an honest
man honest.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From what I gathered it wasn't FMA that was
compromised, it was their payment processor, which begs the question how
many other businesses are impacted by this breach.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:29 PM</DIV>
<DIV
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Matt,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The security
symbol would not have helped here. I’m sure FMA has a fairly secure
site. Their database was what was compromised. Technology
improves daily for this type of fraud…but so do the people doing it.
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>MATT
LIPRIE<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday,
November 20, 2008 4:53 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mups1953@yahoo.com</A>; General pattern
discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database
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<P class=MsoNormal><EM><I><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">That is why I am so leary of using a credit card
somewhere like that. Plus I do always check if the website has
a little security symbol on the bottom of the
page.</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:52 AM<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> Bingo, that explains it. Good
catch!<BR><BR>--- On <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Tue,
11/18/08, MKMSG <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><<A
href="mailto:mkmsg@cox.net"
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MKMSG <<A href="mailto:mkmsg@cox.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">mkmsg@cox.net</A>><BR>Subject:
[NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised<BR>To: "NSRCA
Discussion List" <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>Date:
Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 11:14 PM<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If any of you have
recently bought products on line from FMA Direct using a credit
card, check your credit card account. FMA's database has
been compromised/hacked and whoever has the information is making
charges against the credit cards. I read this in the
electric forum on Ezonemag.com. Sure enough,
when I brought up my VISA account, there was a NAPSTER charge
there so I cancelled the card. You might want to check yours
if you've done business on line with FMA
recently.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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