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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yup Aquila. No need for a DZ in this one. :) With
the 120 Ax it should be just about 9 lbs. So far it's going well - with any luck
I'll maiden it tomorrow. As usual I made some changes so it took me a
little longer to assemble than it should have. Hey it's not "O.C.D." it's
"Attention to Detail"! I had to mod. the landing gear mount so that I could use
Bolly gear but other than that it was a pretty straight-forward build. It's made
in China but the alignment is pretty good as well as the fit / finish. It's
covered in genuine Monokote too. That's a BIG plus. The covering is always one
of the worst parts of a Chinese ARF.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OK I figured out the mount. Using an OS 160 as a
reference the installed distance is in fact 6 3/8" from the firewall to the edge
of the cowl. If you put the engine on the mount the spinner back
plate will actually be about 6 7/16"" from the firewall so I gues the holes
are placed to provide some clearance for the spinner -> cowl. Now, the OS 120
is just a little too short even if you use the front holes. Not a problem, I'll
add a spacer behind the mount. Now I can easily change between 120 Ax, 140
Rx or 160 Fx. The only thing I have to do is install a spacer if I'm using the
120 Ax or remove it if I'm not. Neat. The AR 80 mount works the same way
BTW.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 01, 2008 1:35
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hyde
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm not positive, but my guess is if you want to
install the 140 later, you'd just use the back holes and it SHOULD work. I
think the only problem might come in if you got silly and put a DZ in there
=)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Aquilla I take it? Looks like a cool plane, care
to share your impressions yet?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 01, 2008 1:20
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hyde
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Yeah I know it doesn't really matter
but... I MAY want to use a 140 Rx in this airplane later. As it stands now
if you put the OS 120 on the mount using the most forward mounting holes the
distance from the firewall to the spinner back plate is only 6 1/8". I
remember the "standard" disatance being 6 3/8", that's why I'm asking the
question. I know I can make it all work just fine but what if I want to
change the engine later? It would be nice to just bolt it in using the
correct holes in the mount. If I knew exactly which holes to use for the OS
120 that would be fine assuming that there are also other sets of holes that
would work for any of the compatible engines AND position them exactly the
same distance from the firewall. That's my understanding of how a
"universal" engine mount should work. So... if the proper holes in this
mouint for the OS 120Ax are the forward ones I'll just line everything up
accordingly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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Hester</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 01, 2008
12:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hyde
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm not positive about the 120 size, but the
2 meter size is set up for a standard 6 3/8" distance. This was just sort
of the number we agreed upon a couple years back. It seems to be a
compromise that works ok for just about everything including some of the
more obscure stuff.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The "real" answer is, it doesn't matter,
whatever fits the plane =)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 01, 2008
12:04 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] Hyde
mount question</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm setting up a new airplane with a Hyde
"Firm Idle" Type 'C' mount. I'm using an OS 120 Ax for this particular
installation. There are a few sets of mounting holes on the beams. The
OS 120 lines up with 2 of the 3 sets. One is located more forward than
the other. I'm wondering which set of holes I should use. From what I
understand, this is a "universal" mount and depending on which engine
you use and which holes you use, you should end up at the same installed
length. That way, theoretically, you can install the mount and swap
engines without changing the spinner -> firewall
distance.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has anyone used this mount and if so, what
is the "standard" installed length? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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