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<DIV>I went with the larger of the two....the Vanquish. Additionally the Aspera and Element are not available so my choice was made for me.</DIV>
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<DIV>I really need it for FAI practice....there are tons of snaps in the new sequences so I guess the Vanquish was the better choice.</DIV>
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<DIV>Colin<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 10/30/08, Bob Richards <I><bob@toprudder.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Colin,</DIV>
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<DIV>I have both the Aspera and the Vanquish. Both are very good planes, and use the same motor/prop/battery combo.</DIV>
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<DIV>Don't worry about the Aspera not having enough fuselage area. It does very well in knife-edge and rolling manuevers. In fact, I think it is a little better in that department than the Vanquish. It feels more comfortable to me if I fly it a little faster than I do the Vanquish. It is NOT a 3D plane at all, it was designed purely for precision flying.</DIV>
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<DIV>The Vanquish is a little better at snapping manuevers. The snaps are a little crisper and more predictable. I did notice the problem with the toe-out on the landing gear, and after analyzing the problem I decided to twist the gear very close to the fuselage. </DIV>
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<DIV>As to which model I would recommend - well, they are both very good. I would say, though, that if you are flying a schedule with lots of snaps, then maybe you would be happier with the Vanquish. Lower classes might be better off with the Aspera. The Aspera I think handles the wind slightly better. But, like I said, I have both and enjoy flying both.</DIV>
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<DIV>The power setup I use is the recommended Torque 2814T820, a 45 amp controller, and a 4S 3300 pack. If you use the Airboss controller, you won't need a seperate BEC. I've used Hitec HS65 servos all around, but have a set of HS5065 digitals I want to try out. I settled on an APC 11x7e prop, best combo of performance and duration. </DIV>
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<DIV>I hope this helps.</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>colin chariandy <cchariandy@yahoo.ca></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm trying to get some pattern flyer feedback on the some of the 30 size practice planes out there. I have a 10 sized (Inspire Mini) thats great for the local park when there is no wind but I would like something a bit larger that can be flown at the flying field on typical fall/early winter days (so some wind will be a factor).</DIV>
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<DIV>I have looked at the Element 30, Aspera, Vanquish and the new Angel 30.</DIV>
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<DIV>The Element is the largest and has cool features like an airfoiled stab and fin but may require some mods due to the usual Fliton issues, the Angel looks amazing but is ridiculously expensive, the Aspera is a bit small and does not have a "tall body", the Vanquish has awkward looking L'gear.....none perfect but which is the best for pattern/FAI practice?</DIV>
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<DIV>Unfortunately most of the set-ups, reviews and comments on RCU and RCG are from 3D'ers who tend to overpower the airplanes or want 15min flights. They all seem to want to "ping" out of a hover...whatever that means.</DIV>
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<DIV>Are any of these in use for FAI practice and what choices for power/batteries best emulate the current crop of 2M planes? </DIV>
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<DIV>I am particularly interested in the Element. If anyone has flown it I would appreacite your comments.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks much</DIV>
<DIV>Colin.</DIV>
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