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I have not flown the vanquish but did see it flown at a contest by an
FAI flyer. Very capable for a small plane. Fully able to do the FAI
pattern (in proper hands). Certainly not as smooth as a 2M plane but
will allow you to get some practice in. If you can budget a little
larger plane (still able to fly the pattern at smaller R/C fields, not
a park) the Angel S 50 is an awesome plane. Much better than the
vanquish IMO. Joe L's setup allows very good performance on 5 cell
5000 packs (half of an electric 2M pack) so new batteries are not
required if you fly lectric 2M. The manufacturer calls for 6 cell
packs with a lower KV motor. I purchased one for my son to get more
into pattern and to have a plane to fly at our alternate field (much
tighter space restrictions) when the main field is closed for the
colder months. (No weekends Nov and Dec and closed Jan - March). It
fits both bills very well. The angel 50 would be very competitive in a
contest against standard pattern setups, with it's smaller size only a
slight handicap. I did have a problem with he stab incidence with the
first one I bought (still flew very well, even with a lot of up
elevator trim, see RCU for pictures). After several weeks I am getting
a replacement from the importer. (Very understanding on the phone but
took a while to send the new plane out.)<br>
Stuart Chale<br>
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colin chariandy wrote:
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<div>Thanks for the info....that makes the Vanquish a good
option.</div>
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<div>I only fly the Inspire mini (21oz) at the local park. The
others are for the flying site.</div>
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<div>Colin<br>
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JEREMY CHINN <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lagrue@hotmail.com"><lagrue@hotmail.com></a><br>
Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] 30 Size pratice planes<br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</a>, "NSRCA Mailing List"
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Received: Monday, October 27, 2008, 10:51 AM<br>
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</style><font face="Helv" size="2"><font face="Helv" size="2">Colin,
I've not flown any of the others besides the Flitons. <br>
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I'd heartily recommend the Vanquish. The awkward landing gear is fixed
by quickly re-drilling the holes in the landing gear legs. The toe-out
is not supposed to be there (quite obviously). At least the gear is
strong and requires no reinforcement to stay strong!<br>
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Build the airplane as recommended with the stock power system and put a
washer under the left motor mount tabs to give it some right thrust. <br>
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I've had two and found that it needs a small amount of rudder to
aileron mix to get rid of all coupling. <br>
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I love the Flitons as well, however as you mentioned, they have their
problems. <br>
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All that being said, I would not fly any of the planes on your list in
a local park......... <br>
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:26:38 -0700<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</a><br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] 30 Size pratice planes<br>
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<div>Hello all</div>
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<div>I'm trying to get some pattern flyer feedback on
the some of the 30 size practice planes out there. I have a 10 sized
(Inspire Mini) thats great for the local park when there is no wind but
I would like something a bit larger that can be flown at the flying
field on typical fall/early winter days (so some wind will be a factor).</div>
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<div>I have looked at the Element 30, Aspera, Vanquish
and the new Angel 30.</div>
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<div>The Element is the largest and has cool features
like an airfoiled stab and fin but may require some mods due to the
usual Fliton issues, the Angel looks amazing but is ridiculously
expensive, the Aspera is a bit small and does not have a "tall body",
the Vanquish has awkward looking L'gear.....none perfect but which is
the best for pattern/FAI practice?</div>
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<div>Unfortunately most of the set-ups, reviews and
comments on RCU and RCG are from 3D'ers who tend to overpower the
airplanes or want 15min flights. They all seem to want to "ping" out of
a hover...whatever that means.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Are any of these in use for FAI practice and
what choices for power/batteries best emulate the current crop of 2M
planes? </div>
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<div>I am particularly interested in the Element. If
anyone has flown it I would appreacite your comments.</div>
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<div>Thanks much</div>
<div>Colin.</div>
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