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<body class='hmmessage'>Hi Gray,<BR>
Hope you are doing well.<BR>
I paid $105 for the replacement gear for my Genesis since they are longer and lighter than the currently unavailable Bolly. <BR>
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Anthony<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:32:33 -0500<BR>> From: glmiller3@suddenlink.net<BR>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] CF gear needs and something to talk about<BR>> <BR>> Gray,<BR>> <BR>> I would be happy to pay 100 bucks for a durable, light weight gear set. The beauty of the ES gear was their length to weight ratio. I couldn't get any of the "long ES gear" so I had to run the standards on my BMV3's and the prop touches on anything but the smoooooothest of landings. So I'm pretty much running a 191/2 X 15 rather than the nominal 20X15 <G>. Bolly Gear is significantly heavier and though "thicker" doesn't seem to be any more durable than the ligher ES's.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ---- Gray E Fowler <gfowler@raytheon.com> wrote: <BR>> <BR>> =============<BR>> Interesting about the need for landing gear. Lance and I from AeroSlave <BR>> have conteplated making gear. Personnally I have an ES and we chose not <BR>> design and fab CF gear because the ES was a good price, good weight. I <BR>> was unaware the ES has ceased making the gear. If I had to guess ES <BR>> stopped due to not enough money to be made, probably due to the people <BR>> wanting replacements due to breaking or just not enough profit margin at <BR>> $75.<BR>> I have looked at many different types of CF gear and the one thing they <BR>> all had in common was some type of design flaw. These various flaws were a <BR>> result of composite design ignorance or, a tough choice that had to be <BR>> made to keep fab costs low. So the question is...how much would a pattern <BR>> dude pay for a lightweight CF landing gear that would never break under <BR>> normal use? It can be done, but is the market there?<BR>> <BR>> $100 ?<BR>> $150 ?<BR>> $175 ?<BR>> <BR>> I would guess that a majority will choke on a $100 cost, and obviously, a <BR>> $75 price tag (ES) is not sustainable as a business. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Gray Fowler<BR>> Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>> Radomes and Specialty Apertures<BR>> Technical Staff Composites Engineering<BR>> Raytheon<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Jon Lowe <jonlowe@aol.com> <BR>> Sent by: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> 10/22/2008 11:44 AM<BR>> Please respond to<BR>> General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> To<BR>> General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>> cc<BR>> <BR>> Subject<BR>> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] since the list is slooooooow...<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Concur on the landing gear. Big hole was left when ES stopped producing <BR>> gears.<BR>> <BR>> Jon Lowe<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Mark Atwood <atwoodm@paragon-inc.com><BR>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:02 AM<BR>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] since the list is slooooooow...<BR>> <BR>> Control Horns, Carbon landing gear, wing and stab adjusters (unless we're<BR>> still going to be able to get the gator stuff).<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On 10/21/08 9:00 PM, "JShulman" <jshulman@cfl.rr.com> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > How about this for all you pilots sitting at home not knowing what to<BR>> > practice.<BR>> > <BR>> > Shulman Aviation is developing a pattern line of products. We will have <BR>> an F3A<BR>> > outrunner and controller in a few months, along with<BR>> > some parts for planes. We will also have our 4 ARF designs.<BR>> > <BR>> > My question is... what else do we need to make life easier, or at the <BR>> least,<BR>> > to keep flying our planes? Let me know and we'll see<BR>> > what we can do.<BR>> > <BR>> > Regards,<BR>> > Jason<BR>> > www.jasonshulman.com<BR>> > www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>> > www.composite-arf.com<BR>> > <BR>> > No virus found in this outgoing message.<BR>> > Checked by AVG.<BR>> > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1737 - Release Date: <BR>> 10/21/2008<BR>> > 9:10 AM<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR><BR><br /><hr />Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? 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