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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>FWIW - ZN offer a very nice CF gear for 129 Euros ($165
USD). They are swept, relatively light @ 100 g / pr, and appear to have long for
E and shorter for G. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:32
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] CF gear needs
and something to talk about</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Interesting about the need for
landing gear. Lance and I from AeroSlave have conteplated making gear.
Personnally I have an ES and we chose not design and fab CF gear because the
ES was a good price, good weight. I was unaware the ES has ceased making
the gear. If I had to guess ES stopped due to not enough money to be made,
probably due to the people wanting replacements due to breaking or just not
enough profit margin at $75.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I have
looked at many different types of CF gear and the one thing they all had in
common was some type of design flaw. These various flaws were a result of
composite design ignorance or, a tough choice that had to be made to keep fab
costs low. So the question is...how much would a pattern dude pay for a
lightweight CF landing gear that would never break under normal use? It can be
done, but is the market there?</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>$100 ?</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>$150 ?</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>$175 ?</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I
would guess that a majority will choke on a $100 cost, and obviously, a $75
price tag (ES) is not sustainable as a business. <BR></FONT><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Radomes and Specialty Apertures<BR>Technical Staff Composites
Engineering<BR>Raytheon</FONT> <BR><BR><BR>
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<TD width="40%"><FONT face=sans-serif size=1><B>Jon Lowe
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<P><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>10/22/2008 11:44 AM</FONT>
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size=2>Concur on the landing gear. Big hole was left when ES stopped
producing gears.<BR><BR>Jon Lowe<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
Mark Atwood <atwoodm@paragon-inc.com><BR>Sent: Wednesday, October 22,
2008 8:02 AM<BR>To: General pattern discussion
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
since the list is slooooooow...<BR><BR>Control Horns, Carbon landing gear,
wing and stab adjusters (unless we're<BR>still going to be able to get the
gator stuff).<BR><BR><BR>On 10/21/08 9:00 PM, "JShulman"
<jshulman@cfl.rr.com> wrote:<BR><BR>> How about this for all you
pilots sitting at home not knowing what to<BR>> practice.<BR>> <BR>>
Shulman Aviation is developing a pattern line of products. We will have an
F3A<BR>> outrunner and controller in a few months, along with<BR>> some
parts for planes. We will also have our 4 ARF designs.<BR>> <BR>> My
question is... what else do we need to make life easier, or at the
least,<BR>> to keep flying our planes? Let me know and we'll see<BR>>
what we can do.<BR>> <BR>> Regards,<BR>> Jason<BR>>
www.jasonshulman.com<BR>> www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>>
www.composite-arf.com<BR>> <BR>> No virus found in this outgoing
message.<BR>> Checked by AVG.<BR>> Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database:
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