<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Fire engines are red because they have 8 wheels and 4 people ride in them. 8 and 4 is 12. Twelve inches is a foot. A foot is a ruler. Queen Elizabeth was a ruler. Queen Elizabeth was a ship that sailed the seas. Fish swim in the sea. Fish have fins. The Finns faught the Russians. The Russians are reds. Fire engines are always rushin', so they must be red.</font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">I think I paid $26 for my high end slide rule in 1951. I wouldn't buy a calculator until they got down to $100 and that turned out to be a TI. But the the best and the one I still have is the HP 15C and yes it had RPN. I'm thinking of buying the app for it for my iPhone, but I'm having a hard time trying to justify it as I don't do much with complex numbers anymore.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Jim<br></font><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Oct 13, 2008, at 11:24 PM, <a href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Geez Oddino....was that a trick (or treat) answer?? Thot that QE was a boat. Now I'm really confused<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Troy Newman <<a href="mailto:troy@troynewman.net">troy@troynewman.net</a>><br>To: General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Sent: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 8:04 pm<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Slide Rules....was Art Wagner<br><br>Matt,<br><br> <br><br>RPN is the only way to go.<br><br> <br><br>I had the opportunity to watch my boss try and figure out my<br>calculator, HP-48. I left it on my desk and he just grabbed it for some quick calculations.<br>He’s not an engineer. His comment was no wonder I can’t get things<br>done on time. I have to go back to the Greeks for direction on how to add 2+2<br><br> <br><br>Not really the case, but RPN was something he didn’t have<br>experience with. So I taught him how to use it and loaned him my HP-28 and he now<br>swears by it. There is nothing better than having a Stack to work with.<br><br> <br><br>By the way Art doesn’t do a Slide rule. That is too<br>advanced, Abacus is right up Arts’ alley that way you can count the beads<br>to make sure in case you forget.<br><br> <br><br>Troy<br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br>From:<br><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of James<br>Oddino<br><br>Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:50 PM<br><br>To: General pattern discussion<br><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Slide Rules....was<br>Art Wagner<br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br>Queen Elisabeth was a ruler.<br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br>On Oct 13, 2008, at 11:50 AM, rcmaster199@aol.com wrote:<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>If you hung your calculator by your belt, you were considered a<br>nerd. I remember some of the kids would use that as bragging tool....go figure.<br>Also the strange arguments that would ensue over whether straight up<br>calculations (TI) or reverse polish notation calculation (HP) was better method<br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br>My circular slide ruler was tucked away safely in my pocket, but I<br>must admit that later in my first year, I had to go to dark side too....just<br>couldn't compete with getting the decimals in the right place without<br>thinking. I'm with Bob on that one....I still do the magnitude of the calculation<br>in my head too.<br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br>BTW, is it a "Slider Rule" or a "Slide<br>Ruler"?? I always thought it was a Slide Ruler, or, in my case, neither,<br>since it was circular.<br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br>Another BTW, if you are less than, say, 45 years old, you probably<br>don't have a clue what's all the hubbub about.<br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br><br>From: Bob Richards &lt;bob@toprudder.com&gt;<br><br>To: General patter<br>n discussion &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br><br>Sent: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:45 pm<br><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Art Wagner<br><br><br><br><br><br>My physics class in high school was the last year they used slide<br>rules (did not allo w calculators). One thing that I learned, that I still do<br>to this day, is to try and have an idea of at least the magnitude of the answer<br>in my head. You had to keep track of the decimal place when using a slide<br>rule.<br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br>Bob R.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Bob Kane &lt;getterflash@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>LOL, I remember that<br>happening in my classes also. I can remember being nervous and having<br>difficulty keying numbers. The good ol' days.<br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br>Bob Kane<br><br>getterflash@yahoo.com<br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br>-----<br>Original Message ----<br><br>From: Jay Marshall &lt;lightfoot@sc.rr.com&gt;<br><br>To: General pattern discussion &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br><br>Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:21:50 AM<br><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Art Wagner<br><br><br><br><br><br>Remember those exams where all was quiet, then there was a<br>“Oh s&%$#, my battery died”? We used to come early to get next<br>to the wall socket!<br><br><br><br><br><br>&nb sp;<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Jay Marshall<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>--<br>---Original Message-----<br><br>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-b<br>ounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of vicenterc@comcast.net<br><br>Sent: Monday, October 13,<br>2008 10:15 AM<br><br>To: General pattern<br>discussion<br><br>Subject: Re:<br>[NSRCA-discussion] Art Wagner<br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>I was in the generation that<br>changed from slider rule to HP-35. That was a huge change in the<br>engineering school. The tests were redesigned to account for the time<br>savings when using calculators. Very good memories. That was<br>early 70's.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>--<br><br>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>-------------- Original message -------------- <br><br>From: "Wayne Galligan" &lt;wgalligan@att.net&gt;<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Don't say that to Art.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>From: vicenterc@comcast.net<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>To: General pattern discussion<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Sent: Monday,<br>October 13, 2008 7:01 AM<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Subject: Re:<br>[NSRCA-discussion] Art Wagner<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Only smart people use slider rule.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>--<br><br>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>-------------- Original message<br>-------------- <br><br>From: "Wayne Galligan" &lt;wgalligan@att.net&gt;<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Art does not own a computer. He uses a slider rule.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>From: Steve Ford<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>To: NSRCS Board<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Sent: Sunday,<br>October 12, 2008 4:09 PM<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion]<br>Art Wagner<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Looking for Art Wagner's email or phone number.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Email me at steveandlaurel@valornet.com<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Thanks,<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Steve Ford<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><br>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br><br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><br>NSRCA-discussion@lis<br>ts.nsrca.org<br><br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><br>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br><br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________ NSRCA-discussion mailing list NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><br>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br><br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<br><br><br><br><br><br> _______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>