<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Yeah but if you REALLY want to make sure you get a 9.5 (like I did) you have to be flying a Black Magic! LOL</DIV>
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<DIV>John Pavlick<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 9/23/08, JShulman <I><jshulman@cfl.rr.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: JShulman <jshulman@cfl.rr.com><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls<BR>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 4:38 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=720323416-23092008>Try leading with the elevator first for '9.5's', or like my '9' snaps, just go to the corners at the same time.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bob Wilson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B> aabdu@sbcglobal.net; General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Ah..ha, just as I suspected. The conversation got out of hand, but sure is enjoyable reading.</DIV>
<DIV>Obviously, my snap roll technique was flawed and I can't wait for flying tonight so I can work on the improvements.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks guys</DIV>
<DIV>bw<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Anthony Abdullah <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:aabdu@sbcglobal.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>aabdu@sbcglobal.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<TD vAlign=top>I like that idea!! The rudder could even be mixed to low throttle so each half moves in opposite directions for downline braking, or would that just cause the plane to spin, which could also be cool.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 9/23/08, <A href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>rcmaster199@aol.com</A> <I><<A href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>rcmaster199@aol.com</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV class=Ih2E3d><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls<BR></DIV>To: <A href="mailto:homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com</A>, <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 11:30 AM
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<DIV class=Wj3C7c><BR><BR><PRE>Woa Ed....A one piece rudder wouldn't move much at all so how could it
scrape the bench....who are you trying to chide??
That gives me an idea....maybe we should build elevators as 1 piece and
rudders as 2 piece. Split rudders will eliminate any belly or canopy
pitching. If each half was driven with a separate servo on separate
channels, they might be programmed to move differentially and eliminate
roll couple also. QED!!
Just in case you forgot to trim your triangle, this is a simpler
shearing of the hair
Matt
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From: krishlan fitzsimmons <<A href="mailto:homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com</A>>
To: General pattern discussion <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>>
Sent: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 1:46 am
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls
Did you put the elevator upside down Ed? You have to make sure you put
the non scraping side down..
Chris
--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Ed Alt &<A href="mailto:lt%3Bed_alt@hotmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>lt;ed_alt@hotmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls
To: "General pattern discussion"
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Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 10:03 PM
I just tried that. Something doesn't look
exactly right and the elevator is scraping the workbench now. What am
I
doing wrong?
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:
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To: General pattern discussion
Sent:
Monday, September 22, 2008 11:30
PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap
rolls
swap rudder
with elevator
Regards,
Jason
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]On Behalf Of Bob
Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:24 AM
To:
General pattern discussion
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap
rolls
I'm probably opening this up for lots of discussion, but what is
the
correct technique for a snap?
For an inside snap, I apply rudder a fraction before (same
direction)
aileron and up elevator.
For an outside snap, I apply rudder a fraction before opposite
aileron
and down elevator.
Problem is, I watch the big boys do snaps on my TOC videos and
mine look so raggedy-ass.
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