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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Aside from broken leads at the connectors, I've found that
the connector sockets tend to loosen. This occurs not only on the data link
sockets, but the balance lead connections. On the latter, the loose connection
can produce erroneous imbalance readings resulting in the balancer actually
creating imbalance rather than correcting it. Carefully removing each socket
from the plastic housing and bending them so as to clamp tightly again
works for awhile. I've removed the connectors from one balancer (balancer ends)
and hard wired the extension / data leads to the pc board - tedious work.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I've also found similar loose connections in the
sockets between the two pc boards in the balancers. In one case a socket
pin had "missed" the hole in the pc board during assembly, was only "tip"
soldered and eventually broke. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>It's very easy for false information to sneak into a
system that's measuring millivolts. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Earl</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=lightfoot@sc.rr.com href="mailto:lightfoot@sc.rr.com">Jay
Marshall</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern
discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:17
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Thunder
Power data cable ends</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">True, although I
wasn’t thinking of putting it on the metal. There is, however, a type that is
used for electronics that doesn’t corrode.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P><B><I><FONT face="Brush Script MT" color=navy size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Brush Script MT'">Jay
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><B><I><FONT face="Brush Script MT" color=navy
size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Brush Script MT'">Marshall</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
[mailto:</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Ed Alt<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, September 08, 2008 10:17
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">General
pattern discussion</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Thunder
Power data cable ends</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Be careful about using silicon
sealer. It has a tendency to corrode metal over time. Try Walthers
Goo.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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title=lightfoot@sc.rr.com href="mailto:lightfoot@sc.rr.com">Jay Marshall</A>
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September 08, 2008 8:32 PM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Thunder Power data cable ends</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Something that has
a little flex, such as silicone sealer, works better. If you have a hard,
immovable joint the wire will tend to break there.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Anthony Romano<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, September 08, 2008 8:32
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern
discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Thunder Power data cable ends</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Hi Scott,<BR> Good point.
A little left over epoxy works well for that
too!<BR><BR>Anthony</SPAN></FONT></P>
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Mon, 8 Sep 2008 18:00:52 -0400<BR>From: js.smith@verizon.net<BR>To:
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Thunder
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I don’t
have a source but if you get a new cable, pot the wires with a little
JB-Weld at the connector. This will keep the wires from breaking at
the crimp. Also, if you break off the locking tab, it’s easier to
connect and disconnect. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Stuart
Chale<BR>Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:04 AM<BR>To: NSRCA Mailing
List<BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Thunder Power data cable
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<P class=normalweb13 style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Does anyone
have a source for the 3 pin female data cable ends for the
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<P class=normalweb13 style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">TP charger
to balancer connection?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=normalweb13 style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">They have a
habit of breaking usually right at the pin making it </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=normalweb13 style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">difficult
to repair. A prewired pigtail or double female extension that
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<P class=normalweb13 style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">could be
cut in half would allow easy repairs and hopefully cheaper than
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">$10 to
replace the cable each time it breaks.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Stuart
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