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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Phew `~ glad u got her down safely
Dave.. Think that call that a freebee plane now.. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> Del</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=k6xyz@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:k6xyz@sbcglobal.net">Dave Harmon</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern
discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Ideas on
radio beserkness-cause of crash??</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Here is
what caused me a lot of trouble. I didn’t crash but I should have. The wire
broke inside of the insulation so I couldn’t see the break.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">I pulled on
the wires and the insulation came away exposing the break.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">My airplane
was doing the same thing as Grey’s because the receiver was losing power and
then regaining it causing the servos to freewheel and then jerk back to follow
the sticks.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Of course
the failsafe didn’t work without power…..</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Not
good.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">Regards<BR><BR>Dave Harmon<BR>NSRCA
586<BR>K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net<BR>Sperry, Ok.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gray E Fowler<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:30
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [NSRCA-discussion] Ideas on
radio beserkness-cause of crash??</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Guys</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Yesterday on my 4th flight of
the day my PCM Stylus went nuts. PCM program was set for idle throttle and
about 5-6 clicks(trim wise) of up elevator-all other surfaces neutral, and
this was tested as such by turning off the transmitter. As I passed by
center I noticed that I could not gain altitude and the the throttle started
going from idle to high...then ailerons started oscillating small left-right
deflections. I cut the throttle to the kill position but the engine persisted
up-down bursts. I was able to do a 180 degree turn with aileron coming back to
center...never losing altitude, but unable to change the altitude,elevator
seemed unresponsive. As I passed by center again I was losing more and more
control. The plane flew over the wooded area south of the field at about 200
feet high, I could not turn and the ailerons rolled the plane upside down and
it went straight down into the trees. This whole episode last about 45
seconds. Cannot find the plane, and remnants of Gustav are headed my
way.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Plane was new had about 10
flights on it.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">New battery..NiMH 5 cell pack
-no regulator (ran 5 cell packs for years, no regulator)
</SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Reciever-1999 Stylus
PCM-never crashed, wrapped in foam</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">New
switch</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Transmitter-1999 Stylus,
never been serviced, never had problems</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><B><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">What would
cause a PCM receiver to do such a thing?</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">
If I had and intermittent signal, once the receiver did get a signal the only
two throttle signals should have been idle (PCM hold) and off (transmitter).
I am going to send the transmitter in just to get checked.</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Thanks
guys....<BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Radomes and Specialty Apertures<BR>Technical Staff Composites
Engineering<BR>Raytheon</SPAN></FONT> </P>
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