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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>HOW TO GET RID OF OLD FARTS</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.5in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>1.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Get your club to buy and
setup a couple of small electric trainers and buddy boxes.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.5in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>2.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Find some volunteer
instructors. The AMA has some good, low/no cost programs for this.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.5in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>3.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Invite your local Big
Brothers/Big Sisters and their sponsors to come out and fly a demo.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I got over 50 requests for this!</span></font></p>
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<p><b><i><font size=4 color=navy face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:
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face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";
color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Marshall</span></font></i></b><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Strickland<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 31, 2008
12:02 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>General pattern
discussion</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Beginner advice</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>This
is a GREAT story. We need to encourage more kids in to the hobby.
Seems like there is too large a percentage of old farts flying at pattern
contests.<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
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</span></font></p>
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From: lld613@psci.net<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:57:16 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Beginner advice<br>
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<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lisa and
I went to a swap meet last fall. A young boy and his dad came by and looked at
our Hobbyzone Super Cub. It was nearly new with three charges and four battery
packs. We were asking $150 for all of it RTF.</span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well we
saw the kid on the other side of the building and he was crying and the dad
said he didn’t have the money. After about ½ hour of this, Lisa and I
agreed to offer it to them for $50.00. The dad bought it and continued to
question our offer saying we didn’t need to do this…</span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>About
six months later I was in a LHS and one of the guys was telling me this story
not knowing we were the ones that sold it…I was surprised they were so
close…</span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The kid
has flown the wings off of it. I finally met up with the dad again and he said
the only time his son crashed it was when his son turned off the ACT and ended
up inverted. Dad tried to talk him through being inverted and he crashed. The
funny part was the kid wasn’t happy about breaking the wing when he was
doing what dad told him. Dad said he probably would have been fine if he just
let him fly it out. Dad bought a new wing and all was good again…</span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>He’s
been flying it all summer and is ready for more capable planes.</span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is
a good plane, but not for the wind. I flew it in 10mph wind and it was
challenging. It did seem to keep the young boy’s interest, and by the
way…He was only 6 years old…</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Larry</span></font></p>
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<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>krishlan fitzsimmons<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:20
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Beginner advice</span></font></p>
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<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I gotta say I kinda
agree with Adrian. If you want to catch a kids attention nowadays, maybe a
small electric cub or a beginner foamy. <br>
<br>
</span></font></p>
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face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#0000BF;font-weight:bold'>Chris </span></font></i></b></em></p>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sat, 8/30/08,
adriancwong@earthlink.net <i><span style='font-style:italic'><adriancwong@earthlink.net></span></i></span></b>
wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb12 style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: adriancwong@earthlink.net
<adriancwong@earthlink.net><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Beginner advice<br>
To: "General pattern discussion"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 6:16 PM</span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>John,<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br>
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</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>How about an electric foamy? If that can sparks her interest, you two can<br>
<br>
</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>continue</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> through winter by flying in a school gym. By spring, she should be<br>
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</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>ready for either a bigger glow or electric.<br>
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</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br>
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</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Just a suggestion.<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br>
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</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Adrian<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br>
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</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
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</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>From: John Konneker <jlkonn@hotmail.com><br>
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</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Sent: Aug 30, 2008 4:15 PM<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Del,<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>>What you say is pretty much on the mark. The video gaming thing is<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>couple times. Once even the helicopters. They're just banging the sticks<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>for them. Oh...they can't fly sustained inverted with the heli but it's<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>she wants to be an engineer, bonding experience with getting her in the air as<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>soon as possible while she is interested.<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Ahhhh....fatherhood....<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>>What fun!<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:12:45 -0400Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Beginner advice<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>>John.. <br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Not taking anything away from the excellent suggestions so far but may I<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>easily bored is to basic and easy to fly. (I assume you have access or will use<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>a buddy cord system). I have seen some turned away because it was so easy for<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Del<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>>From: John Konneker <br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>>To: General pattern discussion <br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:18 AM<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>>John,Thanks for the support!That's exactly why I prefer to ask this<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>say..."sincere and well meaning".JLK> From:<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:52:41 -0400> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Beginner<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>advice> > I will second that!> A fellow club member gave me a Multiplex<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>Easy Glider. I am having a lot of > fun with it. I expect the smaller Easy<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>sources.> > John Ferrell W8CCW> > "All that is necessary for<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>the triumph of evil is for good men to do > nothing." -- Edmund<br>
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