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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I'm using a 6S2100 LiPo setup with my HD
Sullivan. The starter is rated at 12-24V and it handles the voltage just fine.
I've also run it 4S2100 and it's more than adequate.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=jpavlick@idseng.com href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">John
Pavlick</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 22, 2008 12:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Kavan
starter with Li-Po battery</DIV>
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<DIV>Ken,</DIV>
<DIV> THAT is the secret Ken. Good batteries are capable of delivering a
higher voltage under a high current loading. If the starter is designed to run
on 12V you're pushing your luck with anything much over 14V. That's why things
are breaking. A GOOD 3S pack should be more than adequate.</DIV>
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<DIV>John Pavlick<BR><BR><B><I>Ken Velez <<A
href="mailto:kvelez@comcast.net">kvelez@comcast.net</A>></I></B>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a question about all this. I see people
using 2S 7.4 @ 8.4V charged and a 4S @ 16.8 V charged. I'm using
a 1950 mAh 3S Extreme V2 on mine and although I'm flying Pattern electric
mostly I still have other glow set ups including a YS 1.60 and my
starter has no issues starting any of this and while using the
3S doesn't give you any advantage as power increase compeered to the
14.4 Ni-Cad packs available the Li-Po's hold a higher voltage under
load without stressing the motor and components. Just my
thoughts.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Robert
Richards</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 22, 2008 11:31
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Kavan
starter with Li-Po battery</DIV>
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<DIV>Fully charged 4S lipo will be over 16v. Has anyone tried a 4S A123
pack? That would be 14v or less.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>JShulman <<A
href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">jshulman@cfl.rr.com</A>></I></B>
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had the same thing happen to mine with a 4S set-up. The first warning
sign was the starter had gotten really hot. The second, and<BR>final
sign, was the starter locked-up. I think it's a combination of the
higher voltage and, for me, the longer time running it<BR>trying to
start the motor (setting and fine tuning),
maybe.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com<BR><BR>-----Original
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf
Of<BR>adriancwong@earthlink.net<BR>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:26
AM<BR>To: NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Subject:
[NSRCA-discussion] Kavan starter with Li-Po battery<BR><BR><BR>To
all,<BR><BR>I have been using a Kavan starter with a 10 cell, 12V, 2.2A
ni-cd pack for many years with good results. However, ever since
the<BR>1400DZ came out, it required more cranking power from the starter
and one charge would normally only last for two weekends of<BR>flying.
By the time the 160Z came along, I've switched to a 12 cell, 14.4V, 2.2A
ni-cd. Again, it performs flawlessly. However, as<BR>you are aware, the
12 cell pack is really heavy.<BR><BR>At the beginning of this year, I
have switched to two li-po packs - 2 cell, 7.4V, 2100 mAh with 15C
continuous, 20C burst on each<BR>pack. The first starter lasted for 6
months until it stopped working after normal wear and tear. The second
one stopped working -<BR>frozen solid - after about 2 months - I could
tell this one had some strange noise to began with, like something was
rubbing inside.<BR>Therefore, I wasn't surprise that it stopped working
only after two months.<BR><BR>The third starter I rigged up was
relatively new, and has been working perfectly, until this afternoon.
After the first flight, it<BR>was frozen solid again. Like the second
starter, it didn't give any warning sign whatsoever - slowing down,
getting hot on either<BR>the starter or the battery.<BR><BR>My
question:-<BR><BR>1) Am I using the wrong battery pack?<BR><BR>2) Too
high of a discharge rate because it's a li-po instead of
ni-cd?<BR><BR>3) Once the starter is frozen, is there a way to fix it?
Sure hate to keep tossing away starters.<BR><BR><BR>Any advice or
suggestion from you electric gurus are greatly
appreciated.<BR><BR>Thanks in
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