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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That’s really too bad. It’s a great
feature in my ’07 that I’ve always thought would be a benefit in a lot of other
vehicles as well. See you in Lindsay at the trials…….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Chad Northeast<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 12, 2008
10:59 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Small Car - 2 m plane hauling</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Unfortunately the movable tie downs on the back of the rear seats are
gone in the '09 models.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Pascoe,Tim [<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Burlington</st1:place></st1:City>]"
<Tim.Pascoe@ec.gc.ca><br>
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:27 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
<br>
> I have a Matrix, and it does indeed hold a full 2M with plug-in <br>
> wings. Front passenger seat folds down flat (forward) and has a <br>
> handy little plastic tray on the back to catch the oil drips :) <br>
> Back seats also fold down flat individually, and the cargo area <br>
> and back of the seats are plastic as well. Another nice little <br>
> feature is the set of moveable tie-downs in tracks running back <br>
> to front in the cargo area, to secure an airplane stand. You can <br>
> also put the plane in with a passenger, but you have to watch <br>
> the prop between the front seats when you shoulder check!<br>
> <br>
> Tim Pascoe <br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-<br>
> discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of rcmaster199@aol.com<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:10 AM<br>
> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org; timsautopro@yahoo.com<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> <br>
> Is anyone looking at the Toyota Matrix as a potential candidate? <br>
> Seems <br>
> that it should have enough room for one 2 meter model <br>
> (plug in wings <br>
> only), if the front seat lays down flat. I wanted to look at <br>
> this as an <br>
> alternative to the grand caravan I'm driving now, assuming the <br>
> mileage <br>
> was 50% better.<br>
> <br>
> The PT Cruiser definitely will hold a full 2 meter. My friend in <br>
> <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">FLA</st1:place></st1:State> <br>
> used one for several years. With the 4-banger, he was getting <br>
> around 30 <br>
> mpg.<br>
> <br>
> I had a Ford Windstar with the 3.8 and as Tim mentioned, it blew <br>
> its <br>
> gasket at around 75K. Very distasteful experience.<br>
> <br>
> MattK<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Ed Alt <ed_alt@hotmail.com><br>
> To: timsautopro@yahoo.com; General pattern discussion <br>
> <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
> Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:02 pm<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> <br>
> So if I get another one, I might achieve a 20% success rate? <br>
> Thanks <br>
> anyhow!<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:29:34 -0700<br>
> From: timsautopro@yahoo.com<br>
> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Ed, I work on these things everyday, if you buy a mit don't say <br>
> I <br>
> didn't warn you. :)<br>
> <br>
> Dave, take a pencil eraser and clean the contacts on the doors, <br>
> btw has <br>
> it blown the head gaskets yet? If not it most likely doesn't <br>
> have the <br>
> 3.8 engine.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> By far the Scaryvans give far less trouble20than any other <br>
> minivan in <br>
> the same class. Look at it this way, a mommymobile isn't <br>
> anything <br>
> different than a pickup with a camper shell.<br>
> <br>
> Tim<br>
> <br>
> --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dave Burton <burtona@atmc.net> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> From: Dave Burton <burtona@atmc.net><br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> To: "'General pattern discussion'" <br>
> <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
> Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 7:13 PM<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I use a Ford Windstar to carry mine and as much as I thought I <br>
> would <br>
> dislike a minivan I got to say I like it a lot. I’ve had some <br>
> electrical issues too but limited to interior lights, door <br>
> locks, and <br>
> power windows. I think it’s related to the sensors that tell the <br>
> computer when all the doors are closed. Mines a 1999 model so <br>
> all that <br>
> electrical stuff is getting kinda aged now. But with 150K it <br>
> still runs <br>
> great, burns no oil and gets 22-26 mpg depending on how heavy <br>
> the foot <br>
> is. I’ll get another one when it dies. Carries 2 planes, gear, <br>
> luggage <br>
> for my wife & I, tent, cooler, and lounge chairs to contest easily.<br>
> Dave Burton<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org <br>
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of <br>
> Ed Alt<br>
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 6:43 PM<br>
> To: jpavlick@idseng.com; General pattern discussion<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> All valid points. The on<br>
> e thing I can't stand about the Dodge stuff <br>
> though, and I'm on my 4th and last one now, is that they <br>
> basically <br>
> can't get the electrical gremlins out of the car. Every one of <br>
> mine <br>
> has acted as if it is haunted in some way. I can explain each <br>
> of the <br>
> unique behaviors that my 4 Caravan's have had, but it just <br>
> shouldn't be <br>
> so. It's more stuff than is worth going into here, but don't <br>
> say I <br>
> didn't warn you. You get what you pay for. Next time, I'm <br>
> looking at <br>
> a Mitsubishi.<br>
> <br>
> Ed<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:36:59 -0700<br>
> From: jpavlick@idseng.com<br>
> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Another vote for the Caravan. I can honestly say that I love <br>
> mine too. <br>
> The mileage figures everyone is claiming are right on. On <br>
> my trip to <br>
> the NATs this year I saw 24 - 26 with the A/C on (and I wasn't <br>
> exactly <br>
> driving at the speed limit). Around town you get about 18. <br>
> PLENTY of <br>
> room. I have Stow-N-Go on mine so I can fold the seats right <br>
> into the <br>
> floor. When you do this you can get full 8' sheets of plywood <br>
> inside <br>
> the van with the hatch closed.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Add a hitch and you can tow an 18' big block Olds powered Jet <br>
> boat. Try <br>
> that with a Prius!<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> As for the "soccer mom" image - just ride your Harley to work a <br>
> few <br>
> days a week to make up for it! LOL<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> John Pavlick<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Snaproll4@aol.com wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Jim,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I have the Grand Caravan. Two 2 meter
planes are not a <br>
> problem <br>
> even with a tent, chair and extra tool boxes. I never thought <br>
> that I <br>
> would drive a mini van, but it is actually a pretty nice vehicle <br>
> to <br>
> drive all the time. However, the kids I work with call it the <br>
> " loser <br>
> cruiser". It's not real sexy, but you get to haul
stuff from <br>
> Home <br>
> Depot too. Highway mileage is 26 with the A/C on. It's a <br>
> better value <br>
> than the Town and Country(but not as nice).<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Steve<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> In a message dated 8/11/2008 4:02:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <br>
> jim.woodward@baesystems.com writes:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Hi Guys,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I commute about 75 miles a day, then do about 100 miles of <br>
> driving a <br>
> weekend for practice so I am on the road a lot. I am thinking <br>
> to down <br>
> sizing one of my cars. At this point, I’m thinking about <br>
> these three:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Scion XB, 28, hwy mileage<br>
> <br>
> Honda Fit, 34, hwy mileage<br>
> <br>
> Chevy HHR, 30 , hwy mileage<br>
> <br>
> $ these around $16,000<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Here is a nice website that allows you to do car by car <br>
> comparisons. <br>
>
http://scionbuyersguide.theautochannel.com/compare_details.php?car1=21667&car2=22687&car3=22711&car4=<br>
> <br>
> =0<br>
> D<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> OR – is something like the Dodge Grand Caravan the way do go, <br>
> and <br>
> that is the biggest bang for the buck? <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Any ideas would be great. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Jim<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
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