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color:#1F497D'>What smell? All mine smell just great!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>DoWayne
Gould<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> chad@f3acanada.org; 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>You guys
that carry your fuel planes inside the vehicle how do you deal with the smell?
I generally keep my equipment in my truck unless it needs repair and when I
open the hatch the odor is pretty strong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>My next
hauler I was thinking of a van type vehicle but not sure I want to smell my
plane all the time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Dowayne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chad
Northeast<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Yes, I liked them as well in my previous Matrix, but some
genious at Toyota decided that no slip rubber pads were just as good at
restraining cargo....?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I will arrive at the field in Lindsay on the 29th
sometime with Ivan in his motorhome, so see you then.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Chad<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Pascoe,Tim [Burlington]" <Tim.Pascoe@ec.gc.ca><br>
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:10 am<br>
Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
To: chad@f3acanada.org, General pattern discussion
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
<br>
> That’s really too bad. It’s a great feature in my ’07 that I’ve <br>
> always thought would be a benefit in a lot of other vehicles as <br>
> well. See you in Lindsay at the trials…….<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Tim<br>
> <br>
> ________________________________<br>
> <br>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-<br>
> discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Chad Northeast<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:59 AM<br>
> To: General pattern discussion<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Hi Tim,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Unfortunately the movable tie downs on the back of the rear <br>
> seats are gone in the '09 models.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Chad<br>
> <br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Pascoe,Tim [Burlington]" <Tim.Pascoe@ec.gc.ca><br>
> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:27 am<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
> <br>
> > I have a Matrix, and it does indeed hold a full 2M with plug-<br>
> in <br>
> > wings. Front passenger seat folds down flat (forward) and has <br>
> a <br>
> > handy little plastic tray on the back to catch the oil drips <br>
> :) <br>
> > Back seats also fold down flat individually, and the cargo <br>
> area <br>
> > and back of the seats are plastic as well. Another nice little <br>
> > feature is the set of moveable tie-downs in tracks running <br>
> back <br>
> > to front in the cargo area, to secure an airplane stand. You <br>
> can <br>
> > also put the plane in with a passenger, but you have to watch <br>
> > the prop between the front seats when you shoulder check!<br>
> > <br>
> > Tim Pascoe <br>
> > <br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-<br>
> > discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of rcmaster199@aol.com<br>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:10 AM<br>
> > To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org; timsautopro@yahoo.com<br>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> > <br>
> > Is anyone looking at the Toyota Matrix as a potential <br>
> candidate? <br>
> > Seems <br>
> > that it should have enough room for one 2 meter model <br>
> > (plug in wings <br>
> > only), if the front seat lays down flat. I wanted to look at <br>
> > this as an <br>
> > alternative to the grand caravan I'm driving now, assuming the <br>
> > mileage <br>
> > was 50% better.<br>
> > <br>
> > The PT Cruiser definitely will hold a full 2 meter. My friend <br>
> in <br>
> > FLA <br>
> > used one for several years. With the 4-banger, he was getting <br>
> > around 30 <br>
> > mpg.<br>
> > <br>
> > I had a Ford Windstar with the 3.8 and as Tim mentioned, it <br>
> blew <br>
> > its <br>
> > gasket at around 75K. Very distasteful experience.<br>
> > <br>
> > MattK<br>
> > <br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: Ed Alt <ed_alt@hotmail.com><br>
> > To: timsautopro@yahoo.com; General pattern discussion <br>
> > <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
> > Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:02 pm<br>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> > <br>
> > So if I get another one, I might achieve a 20% success <br>
> rate? <br>
> > Thanks <br>
> > anyhow!<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:29:34 -0700<br>
> > From: timsautopro@yahoo.com<br>
> > To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Ed, I work on these things everyday, if you buy a mit don't <br>
> say <br>
> > I <br>
> > didn't warn you. :)<br>
> > <br>
> > Dave, take a pencil eraser and clean the contacts on the <br>
> doors, <br>
> > btw has <br>
> > it blown the head gaskets yet? If not it most likely doesn't <br>
> > have the <br>
> > 3.8 engine.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > By far the Scaryvans give far less trouble20than any other <br>
> > minivan in <br>
> > the same class. Look at it this way, a mommymobile isn't <br>
> > anything <br>
> > different than a pickup with a camper shell.<br>
> > <br>
> > Tim<br>
> > <br>
> > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dave Burton <burtona@atmc.net> wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > From: Dave Burton <burtona@atmc.net><br>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> > To: "'General pattern discussion'" <br>
> > <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
> > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 7:13 PM<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > I use a Ford Windstar to carry mine and as much as I thought I <br>
> > would <br>
> > dislike a minivan I got to say I like it a lot. I’ve had some <br>
> > electrical issues too but limited to interior lights, door <br>
> > locks, and <br>
> > power windows. I think it’s related to the sensors that tell <br>
> the <br>
> > computer when all the doors are closed. Mines a 1999 model so <br>
> > all that <br>
> > electrical stuff is getting kinda aged now. But with 150K it <br>
> > still runs <br>
> > great, burns no oil and gets 22-26 mpg depending on how heavy <br>
> > the foot <br>
> > is. I’ll get another one when it dies. Carries 2 planes, gear, <br>
> > luggage <br>
> > for my wife & I, tent, cooler, and lounge chairs to contest
easily.<br>
> > Dave Burton<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org <br>
> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of <br>
> > Ed Alt<br>
> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 6:43 PM<br>
> > To: jpavlick@idseng.com; General pattern discussion<br>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > All valid points. The on<br>
> > e thing I can't stand about the Dodge stuff <br>
> > though, and I'm on my 4th and last one now, is that they <br>
> > basically <br>
> > can't get the electrical gremlins out of the car. Every <br>
> one of <br>
> > mine <br>
> > has acted as if it is haunted in some way. I can explain <br>
> each <br>
> > of the <br>
> > unique behaviors that my 4 Caravan's have had, but it just <br>
> > shouldn't be <br>
> > so. It's more stuff than is worth going into here, but <br>
> don't <br>
> > say I <br>
> > didn't warn you. You get what you pay for. Next <br>
> time, I'm <br>
> > looking at <br>
> > a Mitsubishi.<br>
> > <br>
> > Ed<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:36:59 -0700<br>
> > From: jpavlick@idseng.com<br>
> > To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Another vote for the Caravan. I can honestly say that I love <br>
> > mine too. <br>
> > The mileage figures everyone is claiming are right on. On <br>
> > my trip to <br>
> > the NATs this year I saw 24 - 26 with the A/C on (and I wasn't <br>
> > exactly <br>
> > driving at the speed limit). Around town you get about 18. <br>
> > PLENTY of <br>
> > room. I have Stow-N-Go on mine so I can fold the seats right <br>
> > into the <br>
> > floor. When you do this you can get full 8' sheets of plywood <br>
> > inside <br>
> > the van with the hatch closed.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Add a hitch and you can tow an 18' big block Olds powered Jet <br>
> > boat. Try <br>
> > that with a Prius!<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > As for the "soccer mom" image - just ride your Harley to
work <br>
> a <br>
> > few <br>
> > days a week to make up for it! LOL<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > John Pavlick<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Snaproll4@aol.com wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Jim,<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > I have the Grand <br>
> Caravan. Two 2 meter planes are not a <br>
> > problem <br>
> > even with a tent, chair and extra tool boxes. I never <br>
> thought <br>
> > that I <br>
> > would drive a mini van, but it is actually a pretty nice <br>
> vehicle <br>
> > to <br>
> > drive all the time. However, the kids I work with <br>
> call it the <br>
> > " loser <br>
> > cruiser". It's not real sexy, but you get to haul <br>
> stuff from <br>
> > Home <br>
> > Depot too. Highway mileage is 26 with the A/C on. <br>
> It's a <br>
> > better value <br>
> > than the Town and Country(but not as nice).<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Steve<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > In a message dated 8/11/2008 4:02:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight <br>
> Time, <br>
> > jim.woodward@baesystems.com writes:<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Hi Guys,<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > I commute about 75 miles a day, then do about 100 miles of <br>
> > driving a <br>
> > weekend for practice so I am on the road a lot. I am <br>
> thinking <br>
> > to down <br>
> > sizing one of my cars. At this point, I’m thinking <br>
> about <br>
> > these three:<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Scion XB, 28, hwy mileage<br>
> > <br>
> > Honda Fit, 34, hwy mileage<br>
> > <br>
> > Chevy HHR, 30 , hwy mileage<br>
> > <br>
> > $ these around $16,000<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Here is a nice website that allows you to do car by car <br>
> > comparisons. <br>
> > <br>
>
http://scionbuyersguide.theautochannel.com/compare_details.php?car1=21667&car2=22687&car3=22711&car4=>
<br>
> > =0<br>
> > D<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > OR – is something like the Dodge Grand Caravan the way do <br>
> go, <br>
> > and <br>
> > that is the biggest bang for the buck? <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Any ideas would be great. <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Jim<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
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