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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>Oh man…..I have
had a Grand Caravan, an LHS and a Concorde and put over 200K on each of them
and never had any electrical trouble.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>I have put in
several speed sensors though….</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>Right now I’m
looking for a stow & go….probably Chrysler.</span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>Regards<br>
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Dave Harmon<br>
NSRCA 586<br>
K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net<br>
Sperry, Ok.</span></font><font color=blue><span style='color:blue'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ed Alt<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 11, 2008 5:43
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>jpavlick@idseng.com</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>; </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>General
pattern discussion</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Small Car - 2 m plane hauling</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>All
valid points. The one thing I can't stand about the Dodge stuff
though, and I'm on my 4th and last one now, is that they basically can't get
the electrical gremlins out of the car. Every one of mine has acted as if
it is haunted in some way. I can explain each of the unique behaviors
that my 4 Caravan's have had, but it just shouldn't be so. It's more
stuff than is worth going into here, but don't say I didn't warn you. You
get what you pay for. Next time, I'm looking at a Mitsubishi.<br>
<br>
Ed</span></font></p>
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:36:59 -0700<br>
From: jpavlick@idseng.com<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Another vote for the Caravan.
I can honestly say that I love mine too. The mileage figures everyone is
claiming are right on. On my trip to the NATs this year I saw 24 - 26
with the A/C on (and I wasn't exactly driving at the speed limit). Around
town you get about 18. PLENTY of room. I have Stow-N-Go on mine so I can fold
the seats right into the floor. When you do this you can get full 8' sheets of
plywood inside the van with the hatch closed. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Add a hitch and you can tow an 18'
big block Olds powered Jet boat. Try that with a Prius!</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>As for the "soccer mom"
image - just ride your Harley to work a few days a week to make up for it! LOL</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>John Pavlick</span></font></p>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Snaproll4@aol.com</span></i></b>
wrote:</span></font></p>
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I have the Grand Caravan. Two 2 meter planes are not a problem even with
a tent, chair and extra tool boxes. I never thought that I would drive a
mini van, but it is actually a pretty nice vehicle to drive all the time.
However, the kids I work with call it the " loser
cruiser". It's not real sexy, but you get to haul stuff
from Home Depot too. Highway mileage is 26 with the A/C on. It's a
better value than the Town and Country(but not as nice).</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In a
message dated 8/11/2008 4:02:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jim.woodward@baesystems.com writes:</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi
Guys,</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I
commute about 75 miles a day, then do about 100 miles of driving a weekend for
practice so I am on the road a lot. I am thinking to down sizing one of
my cars. At this point, I’m thinking about these three:</span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>1.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Scion XB, 28, hwy
mileage </span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>2.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Honda Fit, 34, hwy
mileage </span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>3.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Chevy HHR, 30 , hwy
mileage </span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>4.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>$ these around $16,000 </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Here is
a nice website that allows you to do car by car comparisons. <a
href="http://scionbuyersguide.theautochannel.com/compare_details.php?car1=21667&car2=22687&car3=22711&car4"
target="_blank"
title="http://scionbuyersguide.theautochannel.com/compare_details.php?car1=21667&car2=22687&car3=22711&car4">http://scionbuyersguide.theautochannel.com/compare_details.php?car1=21667&car2=22687&car3=22711&car4</a>=</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>OR –
is something like the Dodge Grand Caravan the way do go, and that is the
biggest bang for the buck? </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Any
ideas would be great. </span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thanks,</span></font></p>
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