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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I use a Ford Windstar to carry mine and as much as I thought I
would dislike a minivan I got to say I like it a lot. I’ve had some electrical
issues too but limited to interior lights, door locks, and power windows. I
think it’s related to the sensors that tell the computer when all the doors are
closed. Mines a 1999 model so all that electrical stuff is getting kinda aged now.
But with 150K it still runs great, burns no oil and gets 22-26 mpg depending on
how heavy the foot is. I’ll get another one when it dies. Carries 2 planes,
gear, luggage for my wife & I, tent, cooler, and lounge chairs to contest easily.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dave Burton<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ed Alt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 11, 2008 6:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> jpavlick@idseng.com; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>All valid points. The one thing I
can't stand about the Dodge stuff though, and I'm on my 4th and last one now,
is that they basically can't get the electrical gremlins out of the car.
Every one of mine has acted as if it is haunted in some way. I can
explain each of the unique behaviors that my 4 Caravan's have had, but it just
shouldn't be so. It's more stuff than is worth going into here, but don't
say I didn't warn you. You get what you pay for. Next time, I'm
looking at a Mitsubishi.<br>
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Ed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:36:59 -0700<br>
From: jpavlick@idseng.com<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Another
vote for the Caravan. I can honestly say that I love mine too. The mileage
figures everyone is claiming are right on. On my trip to the
NATs this year I saw 24 - 26 with the A/C on (and I wasn't exactly
driving at the speed limit). Around town you get about 18. PLENTY of room. I
have Stow-N-Go on mine so I can fold the seats right into the floor. When you
do this you can get full 8' sheets of plywood inside the van with the hatch
closed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Add
a hitch and you can tow an 18' big block Olds powered Jet boat. Try that with a
Prius!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>As
for the "soccer mom" image - just ride your Harley to work a few days
a week to make up for it! LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>John
Pavlick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><i>Snaproll4@aol.com</i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I have the Grand Caravan. Two 2 meter planes are not a problem even with
a tent, chair and extra tool boxes. I never thought that I would drive a
mini van, but it is actually a pretty nice vehicle to drive all the time.
However, the kids I work with call it the " loser
cruiser". It's not real sexy, but you get to haul stuff
from Home Depot too. Highway mileage is 26 with the A/C on. It's a
better value than the Town and Country(but not as nice).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>In
a message dated 8/11/2008 4:02:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jim.woodward@baesystems.com writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>Hi Guys,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I commute about 75 miles a day, then do about 100 miles of driving
a weekend for practice so I am on the road a lot. I am thinking to down
sizing one of my cars. At this point, I’m thinking about these three:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>Scion XB, 28, hwy mileage <o:p></o:p></span></li>
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auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>Honda Fit, 34, hwy mileage <o:p></o:p></span></li>
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auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>Chevy HHR, 30 , hwy mileage <o:p></o:p></span></li>
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auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>$ these around $16,000 <o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Here is a nice website that allows you to do car by car
comparisons. <a
href="http://scionbuyersguide.theautochannel.com/compare_details.php?car1=21667&car2=22687&car3=22711&car4"
target="_blank"
title="http://scionbuyersguide.theautochannel.com/compare_details.php?car1=21667&car2=22687&car3=22711&car4">http://scionbuyersguide.theautochannel.com/compare_details.php?car1=21667&car2=22687&car3=22711&car4</a>=<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>OR – is something like the Dodge Grand Caravan the way do go,
and that is the biggest bang for the buck? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Any ideas would be great. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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