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Yes, definitely on the green. The anodized removal tool will come with a carbon fiber handle as well. : )<BR></FONT><BR><BR>
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:34:39 -0400<BR>From: atwoodm@paragon-inc.com<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for foamy's?<BR><BR>
<META content="Microsoft SafeHTML" name=Generator><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Will the bat wingskin versions also come in Mint green?? And do you also sell a special O-Ring balancer? How about an anodized O-ring removal tool? <BR><BR><BR>On 7/14/08 3:27 PM, "JEREMY CHINN" <<A href="http://lagrue@hotmail.com/" target=_blank>lagrue@hotmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I'll be manufacturing some new prop retainers made from bat wingskin. They are only made from the most select South American fruit bat wing skins and rolled by Amazonian tribal members to achieve the highest flexibility and longevity. These should surely sate the most discerning pattern pilot's need for the highest zoot product made. To ensure their high-zoot-ness, I will be charging $30 per retainer. <BR>Please make checks payable to...........<BR> <BR>On a more serious note, take the stock wobbly adapter O-ring to your auto parts store and buy some AirConditioning system O-rings of the same size from their assortment. They are mint green and hold the prop on more solidly than a standard black O-ring. If you'd rather stick with the standard type, go to your hardware store and hit the plumbing section for a cheap replacement<BR> <BR>See ya'll in a week!<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT face="Tahoma, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><BR>> From: <A href="http://vanputte@cox.net/" target=_blank>vanputte@cox.net</A><BR>> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:20:37 -0500<BR>> To: <A href="http://nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for foamy's?<BR>> <BR>> Oops! Should've said: "Maybe John can buy some and send them off to <BR>> Tom Koenig in Australia and Tom could send them to you. That ought <BR>> to jack the price up to where you'd feel comfortable."<BR>> <BR>> Why is there never enough time to do it right, but always enough time <BR>> to do it over? Never mind.<BR>> <BR>> Ron VP<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Jul 14, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Ron Van Putte wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Maybe John can buy some and send them off to Tom Koenig in <BR>> > Australia and John could send them to you. That ought to jack the <BR>> > price up to where you'd feel comfortable.<BR>> ><BR>> > Ron VP<BR>> ><BR>> > On Jul 14, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Mark Atwood wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> Hmmm... Are rubber bands considered Pattern “sexy” though? I <BR>> >> hate it when something is merely functional...lol<BR>> >><BR>> >> Is there some place overseas that’s hard to order from and will <BR>> >> charge me too much so I can feel better about this purchase?<BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >> On 7/14/08 2:40 PM, "John Konneker" <<A href="http://jlkonn@hotmail.com/" target=_blank>jlkonn@hotmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> >><BR>> >>> Hey Mark,<BR>> >>> If we're talking about F3-P planes on up to about 16 oz I use a <BR>> >>> rubber band. I get them by the bag at WalMart.<BR>> >>> You have to double or triple the twists but they work really good <BR>> >>> and don't dry rot and break after sitting like the<BR>> >>> purpose bought ones do.<BR>> >>> JLK<BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:37:14 -0400<BR>> >>> From: <A href="http://atwoodm@paragon-inc.com/" target=_blank>atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A><BR>> >>> To: <A href="http://nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>> >>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for foamy's?<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> While we’re on the o-ring subject, any one have a good part <BR>> >>> number for the o-rings we use to hold props on the foamy’s?<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> -M<BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>> On 7/14/08 8:39 AM, "John Konneker" <<A href="http://jlkonn@hotmail.com/" target=_blank>jlkonn@hotmail.com</A> <<A href="http:///" target=_blank>http://</A> <BR>> >>> <A href="http://jlkonn@hotmail.com/" target=_blank>jlkonn@hotmail.com/</A>> > wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>>> I have about 50 flights on one with no problems.<BR>> >>>> Probably change it just before I leave for the Nats.<BR>> >>>> JLK<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:14:46 -0400<BR>> >>>> From: <A href="http://jim.woodward@baesystems.com/" target=_blank>jim.woodward@baesystems.com</A> <<A href="http:///" target=_blank>http://</A> <BR>> >>>> <A href="http://jim.woodward@baesystems.com/" target=_blank>jim.woodward@baesystems.com/</A>><BR>> >>>> To: <A href="http://nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> <<A href="http://nsrca-/" target=_blank>http://nsrca-</A> <BR>> >>>> <A href="http://discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>discussion@lists.nsrca.org/</A>><BR>> >>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> Any reports on this McMaster Carr O-ring?<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> Thanks,<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> Jim<BR>> >>>> From: <A href="http://nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> <<A href="http://nsrca-/" target=_blank>http://nsrca-</A> <BR>> >>>> <A href="http://discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org/</A>> [<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-">mailto:nsrca-discussion-</A> <BR>> >>>> <A href="http://bounces@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of <A href="http://vicenterc@comcast.net/" target=_blank>vicenterc@comcast.net</A> <BR>> >>>> <<A href="http://comcast.net/" target=_blank>http://vicenterc@comcast.net/</A>><BR>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:42 PM<BR>> >>>> To: General pattern discussion<BR>> >>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> Good. Check that O-ring and let us know if works for you.<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> Thanks,<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> --<BR>> >>>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>> -------------- Original message --------------<BR>> >>>>> From: John Konneker <<A href="http://jlkonn@hotmail.com/" target=_blank>jlkonn@hotmail.com</A> <<A href="http:///" target=_blank>http://</A> <BR>> >>>>> <A href="http://jlkonn@hotmail.com/" target=_blank>jlkonn@hotmail.com/</A>> ><BR>> >>>>> Yes, it's Viton.<BR>> >>>>> I got the DVD today. I had forgotten all about it!!!!<BR>> >>>>> Didn't remember it until I opened the envelope.<BR>> >>>>> Gettin' old!<BR>> >>>>> :-)<BR>> >>>>> JLK<BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>> From: <A href="http://vicenterc@comcast.net/" target=_blank>vicenterc@comcast.net</A> <<A href="http://comcast.net/" target=_blank>http://vicenterc@comcast.net/</A>><BR>> >>>>> To: <A href="http://nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> <<A href="http://nsrca-/" target=_blank>http://nsrca-</A> <BR>> >>>>> <A href="http://discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>discussion@lists.nsrca.org/</A>><BR>> >>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:29:33 +0000<BR>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe<BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>> John,<BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>> Probably is going to work. It gets so hot that the material <BR>> >>>>> expand and could be OK. Is the material you got Viton?<BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>> Thanks,<BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>> --<BR>> >>>>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone<BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>> -------------- Original message --------------<BR>> >>>>>> From: John Konneker <<A href="http://jlkonn@hotmail.com/" target=_blank>jlkonn@hotmail.com</A> <<A href="http:///" target=_blank>http://</A> <BR>> >>>>>> <A href="http://jlkonn@hotmail.com/" target=_blank>jlkonn@hotmail.com/</A>> ><BR>> >>>>>> I got the McMaster Carr ones this evening. They are NOT the <BR>> >>>>>> same as the originals but they may work.<BR>> >>>>>> The McMC's are slightly larger ID and OD when compared up <BR>> >>>>>> against what came with the 821 muffler.<BR>> >>>>>> But, when you put it in the muffler it compresses it down to <BR>> >>>>>> the same friction feel as the Hatori.<BR>> >>>>>> I am going to run it tomorrow and see how it does.<BR>> >>>>>> Joe Dunnaway has some US dimensioned "O" rings that work. He <BR>> >>>>>> will get ahold of a measuring device in the next<BR>> >>>>>> day or two and let us know what the measurements are.<BR>> >>>>>> JLK<BR>> >>>>>> From: <A href="http://vicenterc@comcast.net/" target=_blank>vicenterc@comcast.net</A> <<A href="http://comcast.net/" target=_blank>http://vicenterc@comcast.net/</A>><BR>> >>>>>> To: <A href="http://nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> <<A href="http://nsrca-/" target=_blank>http://nsrca-</A> <BR>> >>>>>> <A href="http://discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>discussion@lists.nsrca.org/</A>><BR>> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:56:38 +0000<BR>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe<BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>> That is 15.47 mm ID and 22.53 OD. It is close to 15 and 22 <BR>> >>>>>> mm. Let us know if works in the long run.<BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>> Thanks,<BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>> --<BR>> >>>>>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone<BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> -------------- Original message --------------<BR>> >>>>>>> From: "Richard Lewis" <<A href="http://humptybump@sbcglobal.net/" target=_blank>humptybump@sbcglobal.net</A> <<A href="http:///" target=_blank>http://</A> <BR>> >>>>>>> <A href="http://humptybump@sbcglobal.net/" target=_blank>humptybump@sbcglobal.net/</A>> ><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> I bought 9464K67 from McMaster<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> Viton O-Ring, 5/8 x 7/8 (Actual 0.609 I.D. and 0.887 O.D.)<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> They are somewhat harder than the original, but the size <BR>> >>>>>>> seems perfect.<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> I’m using it now, but only have about 10 flights on it. So <BR>> >>>>>>> far so good, no evidence of leaks at all. These also fit the <BR>> >>>>>>> MK tailwheel hub nicely..:)<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> We looked up the metric ones, but I did not think any of the <BR>> >>>>>>> metric dims were close enough…Let us know how the metrics <BR>> >>>>>>> work out for you.<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> Richard Lewis<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> From: <A href="http://nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> <<A href="http://nsrca-/" target=_blank>http://nsrca-</A> <BR>> >>>>>>> <A href="http://discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org/</A>> [<A href="mailto:nsrca-">mailto:nsrca-</A> <BR>> >>>>>>> <A href="http://discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of John Konneker<BR>> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:26 PM<BR>> >>>>>>> To: General pattern discussion<BR>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> I just ordered some of these from McMaster Carr. I should <BR>> >>>>>>> have them tomorrow.<BR>> >>>>>>> Maybe someone can comment if these are the ones to use.<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> 9263K772 <<A href="http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp" target=_blank>http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp</A>? <BR>> >>>>>>> partnum=9263K772&pagenum=3390> Metric Viton O-Ring 3.5 mm <BR>> >>>>>>> Width, 16 mm ID, Packs of 10 (Same as 9263K11)<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> JLK<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:03:39 -0400<BR>> >>>>>>> From: <A href="http://atwoodm@paragon-inc.com/" target=_blank>atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A> <<A href="http://paragon-inc.com/" target=_blank>http://atwoodm@paragon-inc.com/</A>><BR>> >>>>>>> To: <A href="http://nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> <<A href="http://nsrca-/" target=_blank>http://nsrca-</A> <BR>> >>>>>>> <A href="http://discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>discussion@lists.nsrca.org/</A>><BR>> >>>>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe<BR>> >>>>>>> Can someone direct me to a source (or several) for <BR>> >>>>>>> replacement o-rings to connect the Hatori 821 short pipe to <BR>> >>>>>>> the Hatori 822 header? Central is out of the authentic <BR>> >>>>>>> Hatori O-rings and won’t have more for a while. Is there <BR>> >>>>>>> another source, or a suitable replacement available?<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> Thanks,<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> Mark<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>> >>>>>>> Checked by AVG.<BR>> >>>>>>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1515 - Release <BR>> >>>>>>> Date: 6/23/2008 7:16 PM<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.<BR>> >>>>>>> Checked by AVG.<BR>> >>>>>>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1515 - Release <BR>> >>>>>>> Date: 6/23/2008 7:16 PM<BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>> --Forwarded Message Attachment--<BR>> >>>>>>>> From: <A href="http://humptybump@sbcglobal.net/" target=_blank>humptybump@sbcglobal.net</A> <<A href="http:///" target=_blank>http://</A> <BR>> >>>>>>>> <A href="http://humptybump@sbcglobal.net/" target=_blank>humptybump@sbcglobal.net/</A>><BR>> >>>>>>>> To: <A href="http://nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> <<A href="http://nsrca-/" target=_blank>http://nsrca-</A> <BR>> >>>>>>>> <A href="http://discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>discussion@lists.nsrca.org/</A>><BR>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe<BR>> >>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:32:00 +0000<BR>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>> <A href="http://NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> <<A href="http://nsrca-/" target=_blank>http://NSRCA-</A> <BR>> >>>>>>>> <A href="http://discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>discussion@lists.nsrca.org/</A>><BR>> >>>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>>> <A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target=_blank>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A><BR>> >>>>>>> --Forwarded Message Attachment--<BR>> >>>>>>> From: <A href="http://jlkonn@hotmail.com/" target=_blank>jlkonn@hotmail.com</A> <<A href="http://hotmail.com/" target=_blank>http://jlkonn@hotmail.com/</A>><BR>> >>>>>>> To: <A href="http://nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> <<A href="http://nsrca-/" target=_blank>http://nsrca-</A> <BR>> >>>>>>> <A href="http://discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>discussion@lists.nsrca.org/</A>><BR>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe<BR>> >>>>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:25:29 +0000<BR>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> <A href="http://NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> <<A href="http://nsrca-/" target=_blank>http://NSRCA-</A> <BR>> >>>>>>> <A href="http://discussion@lists.nsrca.org/" target=_blank>discussion@lists.nsrca.org/</A>><BR>> >>>>>>><BR>> >>>>>>> <A 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