<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">In what plane? If it is in the same vertical plane as the observer it looks like a vertical line.<div><br></div><div>The real question is should it be a 60 degree angle or look like one?<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 9, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Lisa & Larry wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Ok…What does a 60 degree angle look like from a 30 degree angle down the runway and a 20 degree angle up off of the ground…?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><ol start="1" type="a" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; "><li class="MsoNormal" style="color: navy; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">A 45 Degree Angle<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color: navy; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">A 60 Degree Angle<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color: navy; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">A 32.67852374 Degree Angle<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color: navy; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">None of the Above<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color: navy; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">I don’t know what you’re talking about<o:p></o:p></span></font></li></ol><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">This is why I’m stuck in Intermediate…I will never figure this out…VBG…I vote “e”…<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><st1:personname w:st="on"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Larry Diamond</span></font></st1:personname><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>krishlan fitzsimmons<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:06 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:personname w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:personname><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off topic: independence day</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="padding-top: 0in; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">And let's discuss what a 60 degree angle looks like...... And.....<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><img width="18" height="18" id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://mail.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><em><b><i><font size="3" color="#0000bf" face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, 0, 191); font-weight: bold; ">Chris</span></font></i></b></em><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br><br>--- On<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Wed, 7/9/08, Ron Van Putte<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i><span style="font-style: italic; "><<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">vanputte@cox.net</a>></span></i></span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">From: Ron Van Putte <<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">vanputte@cox.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off topic: independence day<br>To: "<st1:personname w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:personname>" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 6:53 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><pre style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Yeah, lets quit talking about that. Plus, let's not talk about spins <br>
and snaps. Let's talk about how to judge the eight different radii <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "> <br>
in the Square Horizontal Eight. Since, in the latest vote on rule <br>
changes, RCA-09-3 failed, we need to train judges that 1. The first <br>
radius does not set the standard, 2. They have to decide what <br>
radius represents most of the radii in the maneuver, 3. They must <br>
determine how each radius deviates from this standard and assign a <br>
downgrade, 4. They then must add up all the downgrades and subtract <br>
the sum of the downgrades from 10 and 5. They must write the score <br>
down on the scoresheet before the airplane enters the next maneuver. <br>
Nothing to it; it just takes a little training.<br>
<br>
Ron VP<br>
<br>
On Jul 8, 2008, at 10:41 PM, Wayne Galligan wrote:<br>
<br>
> Now we are back to the driveway, parkway thing huh?<br>
><br>
> WG<br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: Keith Hoard<br>
> To: <st1:personname w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:personname><br>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:50 AM<br>
> Subject: Re:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "> [NSRCA-discussion] Off topic: independence day<br>
><br>
> "Then I stopped in the middle of the road and went outside began <br>
> yelling at people to 'get the hell out of my driveway!!!' . .<br>
."<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Wayne Galligan <<a href="mailto:wgalligan@att.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">wgalligan@att.net</a>> <br>
<br>
> wrote:<br>
> Actually Steven Wright went home one night and put the key in the <br>
> door to the house to open it and it started.... so he drove it <br>
> around the block.<br>
><br>
> WG<br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: Tim Taylor<br>
> To: <st1:personname w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:personname><br>
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:15 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off topic: independence day<br>
><br>
> Steven Wright not Carlin<br>
><br>
> --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Ron Van Putte <<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">vanputte@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> From: Ron Van Putte <<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">vanputte@cox.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off topic:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "> independence day<br>
> To: "<st1:personname w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:personname>"<br>
<<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 3:08 PM<br>
><br>
> Yeah, but as George Carlin once asked, "Why do we drive on the <br>
> parkway and park on the driveway?" Ron VP On Jul 7, 2008, at 12:54 <br>
> PM, Anthony Abdullah wrote: > Particularly considering a bra holds <br>
> a pair of... Well, you know > what I am getting at. > > Bob <br>
> Richards <<a href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">bob@toprudder.com</a>> wrote: > I'm still waiting for<br>
them to <br>
> burn pantys. > > BTW, how come is it a "pair of pantys"<br>
but only <br>
> "one bra"??? > > Bob R > > --- On Mon, 7/7/08, <st1:state w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Del</st1:place></st1:state> <br>
> <<a href="mailto:drykert2@rochester.rr.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">drykert2@rochester.rr.com</a>> wrote: > Hmmm `~ brings back memories<br>
<br>
> when women insisted on burning their > bra's... ~~ I never <br>
> complained~~ just raised my eyelids for closer > observation..<br>
<g> <br>
><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "> > > <st1:state w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Del</st1:place></st1:state> > > ps ~~ realize it may be an age related comment ..<br>
> > <br>
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